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I know mate.

Please nobody get me wrong, I have the upmost respect for anyone prepared to go to war and fight, the courage that posseses a man to do such thing will probably never find it's way in side me.

I am disgusted by the power brokers and the decision makers, the generals who never see a battlefield but can send a million men to their death for nothing more than a line on a map. They are the true criminals.

I am not anti-war, I am Anti-Death. I see no purpose to murder not only a man but his family solely because he reads from a different book and worships a differnt deity (in name only) than you do.

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Exactly mate... exactly.

It's completely defeatest to use that rationale... as where does it stop? It doesn't and can't... if killing off detractors is the only way to get your point across then you are no better than the mate we all have who wants to fight at the drop of a hat... it never makes things better, it only ever makes things worse.

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Gee! I only started this a few hours ago. It turned into a bit of war and peace. No pun intended!

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Really I dont care who wins or who loses, although Israel will probably smash Lebanon and Lebanon will simply go and declare another holy war.

I do find it funny that Israel was called the terrorists by the Lebanese foreign minister, but I thought this hole caper was started by the Lebs kidnapping soldiers and throwing rockets at Israel?

And Israel simply reataliated by defedning itself.

Well all this mid east war/religion stuff is beyond me. Please leave it over there and do not bring it here, but as if!!!!!!!

So Let me Get This Straight.

Firstly I'm am a Greek Australian.

Secondly I lose my marbles and I kindnapp American Soldiers and launch a few rockets! Then it's OK for America to bomb Australian Airports etc as well as Greek Busses PLEASE EXPLAIN THE LOGIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do I represent Australia???????????? Or Greece for that fact????????????

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Firstly I'm am a Greek Australian.

So you maintain dual citizenship? If so, fine. If not, pick one or the other. It is akin to a black man in the U.S. born in 1982 saying he's an African American which is truely a load of rubbish. :)

Back on topic, who cares who is going to reign supreme over the other? Both sides loose no matter which side comes out on top.

In my opinion, I do not think it really matters in the end who comes out on top because there will always be fighting in that region of the world primarily based upon religion. All we have to do is look at what history has already shown us.

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I'm happy to watch you guys discuss this. Aslong as the following is observed.

1) No racist remarks

2) No threatening or abusive remarks towards others.

3) No inciting crap.

Lets have an adult conversation about a very serious issue.

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  SPIKO said:
Firstly I'm am a Greek Australian.

So you maintain dual citizenship? If so, fine. If not, pick one or the other. It is akin to a black man in the U.S. born in 1982 saying he's an African American which is truely a load of rubbish. :)

That's another interesting point. It's a misnomer, if anything it should be American-Africans but to be honest, If I was a negro in the states I would want to completely divorce myself from what 'America' did to my forebears for 300 years prior :fool:

Remember many Euro-Australian's have only come out to Australia AFTER the second world war, which isn't that long ago and as such Greek Australian and Italian Australians are a completly differnt story, I grew up with Italian Australian's and my sister in law is greek-australian and in both cases they are more Greek or Italian than the Greek's in Greece and the Italians in Italy!

They have maintained their heritage to such an extent that Italian/Greek is still their first language however they also assimilated into Australian culture at the same time, with all the abuse heaped upon the New Australians. I've said it many times before, the proudest Aussies I know are first or second generation 'wogs'.

It's a contrast to other cultures in Australia, who through public opinion and official government proceedure have become ghettoed and maintain their culture but do not have the facilities nor the inclination to assimilate.

But as you said Newl, this is not the case at hand and I'm sorry to have digressed.

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Spiko, if your an Aussie citezen and so do not say "im on a greek hates aus destruction campaign" then you will be thrown in goal as a lunitic and nothing more :P ! Sure there will be some that read into your family history ....

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  SPIKO said:
Firstly I'm am a Greek Australian.

So you maintain dual citizenship? If so, fine. If not, pick one or the other. It is akin to a black man in the U.S. born in 1982 saying he's an African American which is truely a load of rubbish. :)

Back on topic, who cares who is going to reign supreme over the other? Both sides loose no matter which side comes out on top.

In my opinion, I do not think it really matters in the end who comes out on top because there will always be fighting in that region of the world primarily based upon religion. All we have to do is look at what history has already shown us.

Of course I do, But that is not the point!!!!!!!!!

I am a born and breed Australian I respect this and the Country above all, but this does not meen I should forget my roots!!!!!!!!

The only reason I stated my personal status is so I can clarify that I have nothin to do with either party (neutral) that is.

It's funny that this is all you read and commented about!

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  SPIKO said:

I am a born and breed Australian I respect this and the Country above all, but this does not meen I should forget my roots!!!!!!!!

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Spiko

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I grew up here in Oz but wasn't born here. I do have the national licence to wear thongs now :spoton:

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