Lumpen Poison Fish. Poison Fish. TASTY FISH!!! Donating Members 5,181 Member For: 22y 24d Gender: Male Location: The Bogan Shire Posted 16/07/06 04:24 PM Share Posted 16/07/06 04:24 PM phantomchic said: I grew up here in Oz but wasn't born here. I do have the national licence to wear thongs now shazzy←I'd rather wear thongs and shower than be a warm beer drinking, smelly to and from... Lumpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAP No boost, no bottle, just my foot on the throttle! Lifetime Members 7,935 Member For: 21y 1m 25d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 16/07/06 11:24 PM Share Posted 16/07/06 11:24 PM Was there ever a war that did not include Religion as the main catalyst ?Has any war proved that one religion was better ?Does anyone think there will EVER be peace in the middle east ?The answer is NO to all of the above.The USA should keep their hands out of the middle east as they are the ones who keep stirring the hatred pot and inflaming the arabs. Get rid of Israel as it is a boil on the butt of the middle east, most violence revolves around this chunk of blood soaked sand.The biggest problem is the USA's Jewish population. Only 3% of the USA is Jewish, yet the seem to control the whole country and lobby for stupid decisions like supporting Israel with weapons.It is no wonder why people have tried to wipe them out for 2000 years. We will see a massive increase in world wide violence if this continues. All I can see is that we will have a holy war, Muslims vs Christians/Jews. Then there will NEVER be an end to the bloodshed as everyone will be involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rboksic Donating Members 514 Member For: 20y 11m 10d Posted 16/07/06 11:49 PM Share Posted 16/07/06 11:49 PM Iconic Bionic said: xr6 typhoon said: Australia loses because they'll come over here←Yeah I agree with that one. We always end up with the garbage.←Iconic,do they still go to the Shire ?do they live in the Shire?the garbage that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipa_12 Member 182 Member For: 19y 1m 29d Location: Canberra Posted 17/07/06 12:07 AM Share Posted 17/07/06 12:07 AM ZAP_F6 said: Was there ever a war that did not include Religion as the main catalyst ?Has any war proved that one religion was better ?Does anyone think there will EVER be peace in the middle east ?The answer is NO to all of the above.←There was a 7 day soccer war , between El Salvador and Honduras.. over a world cup qualifying match... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat-Tony Member 5,364 Member For: 19y 18d Posted 17/07/06 12:16 AM Share Posted 17/07/06 12:16 AM you have got to wonder why the jewish race have been clearly the most persicuted race in history, even goes back to the stories in the bible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest casgeroth Guests Posted 17/07/06 12:36 AM Share Posted 17/07/06 12:36 AM ZAP_F6 said: Was there ever a war that did not include Religion as the main catalyst ?Has any war proved that one religion was better ?Does anyone think there will EVER be peace in the middle east ?The answer is NO to all of the above.The USA should keep their hands out of the middle east as they are the ones who keep stirring the hatred pot and inflaming the arabs. Get rid of Israel as it is a boil on the butt of the middle east, most violence revolves around this chunk of blood soaked sand.The biggest problem is the USA's Jewish population. Only 3% of the USA is Jewish, yet the seem to control the whole country and lobby for stupid decisions like supporting Israel with weapons.It is no wonder why people have tried to wipe them out for 2000 years. We will see a massive increase in world wide violence if this continues. All I can see is that we will have a holy war, Muslims vs Christians/Jews. Then there will NEVER be an end to the bloodshed as everyone will be involved.←I agree with this in part. Not the bit about getting rid of Israel. Violence begetting violence and all that. But more to do with USA and supporting Israel.I think since WWII everyone's been almost oversympathetic towards the jewish people. Sure what they went through was terrible and atrocious in every way, but it seems like the US want to continue on with "saving the jews"...Personally I think Israel has done a pretty good job at stirring up trouble in that area, and that they don't need any help in defending themselves.It's almost like they were looking for an excuse to start shelling the place.It's going to take a lot to stop this escalating even more, and it will be interesting to see what the other countries decide to do (if anything).Hopefully little Johnny will keep his nose out of it and just try and get any Australians home safely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veczar Gold Platinum Member Member 1,081 Member For: 20y 9m 13d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 17/07/06 02:39 AM Share Posted 17/07/06 02:39 AM US Jews do not get all the funding from US for Israel, yet Isael get funds support because they buy US weapons and the US 'has to choose a side' and Israel best fits their middle east policies than the other nations in that area. They also don't want them attacked on a full scale, giving military funding deters this. Isreal is prolly the only country in the area that US can control as well.If the US stoped meddling in arab afairs 100% a large chunk of them would hate the US no less.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumpen Poison Fish. Poison Fish. TASTY FISH!!! Donating Members 5,181 Member For: 22y 24d Gender: Male Location: The Bogan Shire Posted 17/07/06 03:16 AM Share Posted 17/07/06 03:16 AM I don't understand this US administration's infatuation with Israel or Israel's infatuation with the US. It seems utterly contradictory.The US government is basically staffed by right wing, neo conservative HARDCORE christians, who have basically been the first to lead genocide against the Jew's when they decide they don't want to pay the money lenders anymore.Bush think's he is on a crusade, in the middle ages crusades the christians chopped up as many jews on their way to Jeruselam as they did Muslims, but still Israel continues a close alliance.The US may see Israel as a nessecary catalyst in the Middle East and use them as an excuse to invade more oil rich nations (defending an alliance), who knows. The US-Israel alliance is of great consernation to many more liberal Israeli's but as with most international governments currently, the left holds little if any sway.I suggest everyone get hold of a book by Ari Ben Menashe called 'Profits of War'. It's available as a hardcover through Amazon for about $50AU delivered. It's an interesting first hand (Ben Menashe was the Mossad Arm's Dealer!) expose of the Israeli arm's trade and politics in the Middle East. It also covers the CIA's sale of Drugs into the US to finance the production of weapons (including chemical) in South America that were exported to Iraq and other such places.It's not left-wing propoganda but is a a factual, first hand account of the dealings, what went on is quite disgusting. A book I'm currently reading is Bob Woodward's : Veil.It is written by one of the men who broke Watergate and ties in alot of the CIA and US based weapons deals with Menashe's book!Lumpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboDewd FG Falcon fan! Member 1,452 Member For: 21y 9m 2d Gender: Male Location: Canberra Posted 17/07/06 03:39 AM Share Posted 17/07/06 03:39 AM Yanno this all stems from WWII when the Brits decided to give the jews a bit of Palestine. Obviously the Palestinians werent gonna cop that and the whole area has been dodgy since.The real reason, I believe, for the creation of Israel is actually a stooge state of the UK-US alliance to maintain military dominance in the oil rich region. The borders of all Middle Eastern countries were established by the UK and France post WWI.Basically the goal is to maintain a facade of an arab state which is weak and pliable so that UK, US oil interests were maintained. This is why we loved Saddam for quite a while. This is why we were supporters of the Shah of Iran.AT the end of the day EVERYTHING in the region revolves around oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chooka THE Member Donating Members 1,210 Member For: 19y 9m 3d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 17/07/06 03:43 AM Share Posted 17/07/06 03:43 AM TurboDewd said: AT the end of the day EVERYTHING in the region revolves around oil.←And always will while there is oil there!!!Just imagine what the middle east will look like when it eventually runs out!!! nothing else thereChooka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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