Workplace Bargaining Agreements

[Cro]

If you're out of work, go do some study at tafe.

My old man was a fully qualified mechanic in Croatia, however it means absolutely nothing in Australia.

He went on to do his dogmans ticket, and started earning more than he ever could being a mechanic back in the 70's.

Recently he's been out of work, so he went through tafe to get his riggers ticket, scaffolding, crane driver, forklift driver, hoist driver, etc...

He is now earning twice as much money as me (and I do well for a 25 year old) for standing in the same spot, hooking a load up to a crane, and telling the driver where to put it.

Far out, he even got $40 an hour for operating a large hoist (think elevator).

Even starting out as a cleaner in a construction firm will get you $20 an hour.

Thought about being a brickies labourer?

Could earn you up to $2.5k a week clear if you work hard, and work for the right boss.

Work your way up, and do tafe at the same time to become a qualified brickie, then builder, then own your own business.

If you can't find a job in your town, rent a place in another town with work.

There is plenty of construction going on in the country, with lots of tourists buying holiday apartments.

Unless you have a disability, there are no excuses for being a dole bludger.

[Guest newl]

Shall we talk about IBM,TELSTRA ETC with call centres in india and sacking Aussie workers,yep this goverment is really looking after us.

Might want to get your facts straight there mate. Telstra do not have ANY call centers in India, sales, support or otherwise.

[ZAP]

newl is correct, Telstra have outsourced software development work to Inda not call centers.

HP and Dell are the main ones with indian call centers.

As far as I know IBM still have local or USA support, I am yet to speak to India when I call their support lines.

[Dagabond]

Sorry to hear of your predicament though Daggy, but a stagnant job is better than the company folding and you ending up on the street.

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That's actualy is another worrying point for us all as there biggest arguement for not increasing the wages is there currently making the exact same part in China for $2.00 against it costing them $4.00 in Australia, the only thing that's holding them back is the fact that they cant ship product directly to America.

[Blonk]

Being self employed the majority of my life I know why unions are now basically drowning in there own crap and vomit.

I believe that every employer has the right to sack anyone at anytime and pay them what they please. You will pay top bucks for top people and bugger all for idiots. If you dont like what you are getting paid, SIMPLE - Go find another job. If you cant find one then you are probably getting overpaid on the job you have now. SIMPLE.. Australia is suffering from the greatest skills shortage it has ever experienced since the snowy mountains scheme... If a bloke wants to work hard and get ahead, or if another person wants to study and improved there knowledge and skills, they are obviously much more valuable than someone who turns up 9 to 5 and whinges and bludges,cause the bosses worked hard to create there business, or work hard to encourage and maintain more business and get shiat thrown at them when they buy a new car????

Come down to earth you people that believe you are worth more than the boss is paying you, go ask for more or change companies, or find out just how good you really are and start your own business .. Then really on yourself to make more money, and then employ people that hate you and whinge about you when you buy a new car.....

This country is long overdue to cull some dead wood, and good ridance to it.

And Dags, if your boss found out how much time you spend plaguerising the internet he would realise he is probably paying you waaaayyy too much already....

[Dagabond]

And Dags, if your boss found out how much time you spend plaguerising the internet he would realise he is probably paying you waaaayyy too much already....

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What I do on my time is there business as well..... .....bugger better give them a heads up then...

Most of the guy's I work with are on the lower end of the scale and are just looking to survive there not asking thousands or anything above what there worth just enough to help them get by day to day and keep there head above water.

[coach3062]

Very interesting reading about your experiennces with Work Place Agreements as my boss (who is a pretensious turd) just tried this on me:

No moreholiday loading

No more sick pay

No more long service leave

No more RDO's

No unions in the workplace

and in return I get;

All the customer compliants

All the employee whinges

All the responsibility for taxes, accreditation, pricing, wages, stock, rosters, cash flow, research, product planning, advertising, market research, grovelling to customers etc etc

Oh sh.t, I just realised, I am the boss...............I'll quit, that'll show him!

[Blonk]

Very interesting reading about your experiennces with Work Place Agreements as my boss (who is a pretensious turd) just tried this on me:

No moreholiday loading

No more sick pay

No more long service leave

No more RDO's

No unions in the workplace

and in return I get;

All the customer compliants

All the employee whinges

All the responsibility for taxes, accreditation, pricing, wages, stock, rosters, cash flow, research, product planning, advertising, market research, grovelling to customers etc etc

Oh sh.t, I just realised, I am the boss...............I'll quit, that'll show him!

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[Blonk]

And Dags, if your boss found out how much time you spend plaguerising the internet he would realise he is probably paying you waaaayyy too much already....

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What I do on my time is there business as well..... .....bugger better give them a heads up then...

Most of the guy's I work with are on the lower end of the scale and are just looking to survive there not asking thousands or anything above what there worth just enough to help them get by day to day and keep there head above water.

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Apologies Dags if that is the case,

There are battlers I know, but if any of them are geniunely good capable people, let me know FFS... I will employ them immediately.....

[stang]

Shall we talk about IBM,TELSTRA ETC with call centres in india and sacking Aussie workers,yep this goverment is really looking after us.

Might want to get your facts straight there mate. Telstra do not have ANY call centers in India, sales, support or otherwise.

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that's funny I sold mobiles for telsta for 3 years and when I needed to do mobile connections the overflow went to india. My brother inlaw works for IBm and has just lost his job due to his department being moved to ballarat and the rest been taken over in india.My friend work in it support for IBM she just lost her job as support is now outsourcedby india. Maybe you should talk to the people losing their jobs instead of what you read.