Cheap 4' Magic Cats

[Kimberley Scott]

  veczar said:

Kimmy Scott if you dont want to get a new cluch then dont go for 250rwkw it will kill your stock one. Just go unichip/edit + 2ndCAI + K&N. Once you do injectors and cat your clutch will be teh slip master.

Now, Back on topic

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I thought the 260-270rwkw was the mark for slipping clutches on T56?

May all be a mute pont anyway, as I may be buying a house, so no money for the T.

Scotty

[F6 UTE]

  xr_jim said:

what kind of power increse would I get by fitting a  4' magic cat? I have a stock BA MKI  T.  also would I come on boost earlier?

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Hi mate. Because of the way the factory computer controls things, it will not allow just a cat fitment. The cat fitment will free up the exhaust, increase the boost and the engine management detects it, and puts the car into 'limp' mode, as it sees a problem.

You will ALWAYS need to get the factory computer 'edited' or a secondary device attached to the computer to fool the computer into thinking there is no problem.

Editing the pcm is easy, getting a good edit ( tune ) of the pcm is another story.

The subject has caused many a war 'round these parts....

[xr_jim]

thanks, where would I need to go to get it edited? anywhere in sydney you could recomend? what sort of cost are involved?

[JimmyXR6T04]

xr jim, I posted above saying I had my 4inch cat installed with the car standard, and I can't say I noticed much. Car didn't go into limp mode, I think the ecu simply retarded timing, as boost remained at 4.5psi at WOT.

To make the most of the gains, as mentioned you really need a custom tuned edit. I can't comment on the sydney side of things, but I'm sure some one will point you towards a good tuner shortly!

[xr_jim]

was there any noticeable performance increse?

[Falchoon]

  bugster70 said:

  Falchoon said:

A bit exxy, just over $200, I know others have got it done for less.

Noise doesn't really seem to have changed, maybe under full throttle/peak revs but I haven't had a chance to test that theory yet! 

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Ross, where did you have it fitted mate? And which cat did you get, the 4" or 5"?

And has the car been running okay since installation? No overboost/limp mode issues? I was just under the impression the factory ECU program may not be able to cope with the additional flow such a cat would provide - thought an Edit was needed?

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Powatone fitted it. I only had it installed for a day before getting all my other bits fitted and tuned so didn't really get a chance to give my car too much sh!t. Car has now quietened down slightly after the tune.

[RAP1D]

  Kimberley Scott said:

  veczar said:

Kimmy Scott if you dont want to get a new cluch then dont go for 250rwkw it will kill your stock one. Just go unichip/edit + 2ndCAI + K&N. Once you do injectors and cat your clutch will be teh slip master.

Now, Back on topic

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I thought the 260-270rwkw was the mark for slipping clutches on T56?

May all be a mute pont anyway, as I may be buying a house, so no money for the T.

Scotty

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mine slips with only a CAI... and 5000kays on it

[Kimberley Scott]

  RAP1D said:

  Kimberley Scott said:

  veczar said:

Kimmy Scott if you dont want to get a new cluch then dont go for 250rwkw it will kill your stock one. Just go unichip/edit + 2ndCAI + K&N. Once you do injectors and cat your clutch will be teh slip master.

Now, Back on topic

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I thought the 260-270rwkw was the mark for slipping clutches on T56?

May all be a mute pont anyway, as I may be buying a house, so no money for the T.

Scotty

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mine slips with only a CAI... and 5000kays on it

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that's no good mate, surely that would be a warranty issue, and not the norm though?

Scotty

[RAP1D]

Nah, clutch isnt covered. It works ok for normal driving, takes up very high though... slips if I drop it at 4000plus when its hot

[Kimberley Scott]

  RAP1D said:

Nah, clutch isnt covered. It works ok for normal driving, takes up very high though... slips if I drop it at 4000plus when its hot

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I see, never been game to do something like that, still guess it is better the clutch slips that something goes bang.

Scotty