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Hi all, just an update for any one who's interested

Couldn't move the battery to the other side of the engine bay cause my pipe work is in the way ( will move later when I get an oddessy)

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Pipe work is 3" alloy in the engine bay and 3" mild steel where you cant see.

( reason for using the mild steel is I could only get 3 bends of alloy and I had to have it finished by tue)

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I know the cooler isnt straight will be fixed before final install :spoton:

will have it finished by the end of the week, have to get some bit welded up (boost sensor and Bov pipe) also getting ridges put around the end of all the pipes so I don't have any hoses blow off. Will also have a dyno run to check AFR's ect. Will get it retuned when I have my nizpro valve springs fitted ( end of July )

:rolleyes: sorry bout the picture quality! was taken with a phone

Kym

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Not wanting to put too negative aspect on your cooler, but.

From what I have read about IC design when the inlet and outlet manifolds are fitted as yours are its not the most efficient design.  80% of the flow will go through the bottom part of the cooler as the air will take the shortest distance between the inlet and outlet pipes.

The header outlets should be the opposite each other and in this case wider at the top instead of the bottom.  Just like the WOG cooler which is an excellent design.

I think this is a case of bigger might not be better.

Not saying it wont work, but PWR should go back to basics of IC design.

What you neglect to take into consideration, is that the bottom 150 mm of this PWR (and APS) core is right in the open mouth of the lower grille opening where the greatest flow of incoming cold air can do its job.

The sheer volume of the cooler also provides an immense heatsink, to absorb the temp rise in incoming compressed air. Heat dissipates rapidly throughout the core, and as there is a greater surface area, the ability of incoming air to cool the core is enhanced.

There is a need for turbo actuator/waste gate mods though, to maintain good boost control.

APS increase the port size of the waste gate, and use a larger swing valve and stonger actuator to provide the complete solution.

And believe me, it works. And works well.

After spirited driving, you can feel the higher temp on the incoming side of the IC core... and also feel the exit port is stone cold.

Bigger is better if it is set up properly and tuned accordingly.

tom

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Mate that looks awesome. Pretty thick cooller ay. I reckon I'll still get the ASE cooler over Trent's PWR.Does anyone else have any thought's on cheap effective air cooling??

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Not wanting to put too negative aspect on your cooler, but.

From what I have read about IC design when the inlet and outlet manifolds are fitted as yours are its not the most efficient design.  80% of the flow will go through the bottom part of the cooler as the air will take the shortest distance between the inlet and outlet pipes.

The header outlets should be the opposite each other and in this case wider at the top instead of the bottom.  Just like the WOG cooler which is an excellent design.

I think this is a case of bigger might not be better.

Not saying it wont work, but PWR should go back to basics of IC design.

Look a bit harder... Both the inlet and outlet radius up into the tank at the point of contact with the tank.... Resulting in airflow on the entry tank to be directed along the a higher percentage of the core.

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Mate that looks awesome.  Pretty thick cooller ay. I reckon I'll still get the ASE cooler over Trent's PWR.Does anyone else have any thought's on cheap effective air cooling??

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This is a ASE 450X450X100mm bar and plate intercooler used for the Cobra kit, rather than the Nizpro unit. It's approximately twice as big in volume as the Nizzer unit.

Charge temps under sustained load rise by around 20 Deg F over ambient running 16-18psi boost during short bursts of power. It has excellent end tank design so doesn't favour top/bottom half of intercooler for flow either.

Cost was around $940 inc GST and freight.

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Mate that looks awesome.  Pretty thick cooller ay. I reckon I'll still get the ASE cooler over Trent's PWR.Does anyone else have any thought's on cheap effective air cooling??

post-5969-1154681540_thumb.jpg

This is a ASE 450X450X100mm bar and plate intercooler used for the Cobra kit, rather than the Nizpro unit. It's approximately twice as big in volume as the Nizzer unit.

Charge temps under sustained load rise by around 20 Deg F over ambient running 16-18psi boost during short bursts of power. It has excellent end tank design so doesn't favour top/bottom half of intercooler for flow either.

Cost was around $940 inc GST and freight.

Nice looking cooler! :greyscare:

mine is 400mmH and it sits low in the bumper yours must be pritty much on the bottom of the bumper!

Once again looks great, good job. It's good to some people doing their own thing!

Get some variaty going on! :laughing:

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Just one with all the piping pulled out of the car! Have had a few PMs about it and it was really hard to explain so here it is. sorry there is only 1 photo my camera corupted all the rest and I'm not taking the bumper off again :laughing:

They say a picture says a 1000 words.

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So that the bottom half now I get it.

but I take it the bottom half sit's more striaght then what

it is in the pic. thanks for that.

Carlos.

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