obi Member 150 Member For: 18y 9m 27d Location: Qld Posted 10/05/06 03:15 AM Share Posted 10/05/06 03:15 AM Thinking about getting an Edit from Chip Torque after the car gets up a few more K's, but would appreciate a few answers from the knowledge ones. If the XR6T puts out the equal or more than the Typhoon after the Edit without any drama's why does the Typhoon get stronger conrods etc & a beefier auto transmission ? Or is there problems to be had down the track with both my engine & auto. ( In saying this with regard also to the 6 speed auto running clutches instead of bands). Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drcook Member 752 Member For: 20y 5m 24d Location: leonay Posted 10/05/06 03:35 AM Share Posted 10/05/06 03:35 AM Thinking about getting an Edit from Chip Torque after the car gets up a few more K's, but would appreciate a few answers from the knowledge ones. If the XR6T puts out the equal or more than the Typhoon after the Edit without any drama's why does the Typhoon get stronger conrods etc & a beefier auto transmission ? Or is there problems to be had down the track with both my engine & auto. ( In saying this with regard also to the 6 speed auto running clutches instead of bands). Thanks in advance. ←well any performance increase to any car can possibly effect reliability. its how far you want to go, and what measures your willing to go to to protect your car.firstly you need to find a performance shop with a good reputation. then you need to decide on what power you want to run, and then find out from the shop and/or other users of this site what would be recommended as protection (ie trans cooler, gearbox strengthening), and then make sure you run the recommemded fuel ALL THE TIME.I got the edit through a certain travelling tuner (who I wont recommend) and had big pinging issues. so with the help of DABOSS (another member on this site), went to a reputable tuning shop in sydney. end result - 236 rwkw (up from 190) and no ping. Now I havent made any other changes to my car, but I really should get at least a trans cooler, and if I were you I would look at one. at the end of the day though, you cant gaurantee reliability and if ford services the car and finds evidence youve got the edit you run the risk of losing your warantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flukey Seriously Flukey Member Donating Members 4,354 Member For: 20y 10m 22d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 10/05/06 03:42 AM Share Posted 10/05/06 03:42 AM Nike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Member 150 Member For: 18y 9m 27d Location: Qld Posted 10/05/06 04:04 AM Author Share Posted 10/05/06 04:04 AM From what I can gather the 6 speed auto has a transmission cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAPHOON Donating Members 1,776 Member For: 21y 7m 16d Posted 10/05/06 04:58 AM Share Posted 10/05/06 04:58 AM Thinking about getting an Edit from Chip Torque after the car gets up a few more K's, but would appreciate a few answers from the knowledge ones. If the XR6T puts out the equal or more than the Typhoon after the Edit without any drama's why does the Typhoon get stronger conrods etc & a beefier auto transmission ? Or is there problems to be had down the track with both my engine & auto. ( In saying this with regard also to the 6 speed auto running clutches instead of bands). Thanks in advance. ←well any performance increase to any car can possibly effect reliability. its how far you want to go, and what measures your willing to go to to protect your car.firstly you need to find a performance shop with a good reputation. then you need to decide on what power you want to run, and then find out from the shop and/or other users of this site what would be recommended as protection (ie trans cooler, gearbox strengthening), and then make sure you run the recommemded fuel ALL THE TIME.I got the edit through a certain travelling tuner (who I wont recommend) and had big pinging issues. so with the help of DABOSS (another member on this site), went to a reputable tuning shop in sydney. end result - 236 rwkw (up from 190) and no ping. Now I havent made any other changes to my car, but I really should get at least a trans cooler, and if I were you I would look at one. at the end of the day though, you cant gaurantee reliability and if ford services the car and finds evidence youve got the edit you run the risk of losing your warantee.←Your first step has been the correct one in coming here for information. The site has a large number of users who have used various methods to increase the output of their cars to various different levels. Here you will be able to search through a vast amount of information, in any number of threads, to come up with you preferred method.To answer your initial questions, the standard cars internals are capable of 300RWKW and over. Some owners have gone significantly over this figure and are still going fine. Now, factor in your standard power of 190 to 210RWKW and you can sse that you have a lot of scope for your power increase.Regarding the method used, I would say the vast majority would agree that an EDIT is the way to go. That is, the reprogramming of the original computer rather than an additional "piggy back" computer to "fool" the original ECU. The new settings should be customised to your car/modifications/power level to ensure you are getting the best possible result. This will cost you a little more than the $995 but the results are well worth it. In Brisbane, I'd go to FIST Performance to get the work done. I also had work done by an interstate tuner (probably the same one as drcook) and could not recommend him highly enough. The results he achieved in my previous car were far beyond what anyone else was doing at that time. The only issue is that the interstate tuner is not readily available whenever you make incremental changes in hardware (new exhaust/intercooler/injectors etc). Some of us now have tunes from a number of tuners, some local some interstate. For a straight edit tune though, the car will run better and be perfectly safe save for increased rear tyre wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxx Colossal Member Member 5,049 Member For: 20y 5m 19d Gender: Male Location: Perth, WA Posted 10/05/06 05:04 AM Share Posted 10/05/06 05:04 AM Best value for $$$ I EVER spent on my car You won't regret it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotom Team Bute Donating Members 1,550 Member For: 21y 6m 28d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 10/05/06 06:32 AM Share Posted 10/05/06 06:32 AM ( In saying this with regard also to the 6 speed auto running clutches instead of bands). ←WTF ?"Edit only" will serve you well as long as its tuned properly.It'll give you an appreciable increase in power, torque and driveability, and also improve your fuel economy if you drive sensibly.It can also stuff your car up big time if the tune is not set up correctly....... so go to a proven reputable tuner.The trans shift action can be modified to an extent with the edit to help deal with the increased torque, but if you drive like a hoon, it will also be prone to premature failure.Ford have fitted the F6 with stronger rods and trans because they obviously want to reduce the possibility of failure in their performance products.Typically, you buy a performance car to utilise the power, and Ford have found the Turbo 6 can quite easily break things when used to its potential. Clutches were a real problem in the manuals when first released, and the BA 4sp auto is not rated strong enough to cope with the torque of the F6.4sp autos can be tricked up to deal with ~350 rwkw though, so all is not lost.As stated already, if you do go the edit, fit an auxilliary trans cooler to help reduce trans oil temps if driving enthusiastically.The stock trans uses a trans cooler within the radiator..... This is OK for "normal" driving and power levels. But if you start doing brake stall burnouts, and doing some quarter mile drag racing, you'll quickly increase the trans oil temp and "cook" the oil, causing it to reduce its effectiveness in maintaining good lubrication and operation.An aux trans cooler is also a good idea if towing frequently, or carrying loads in a ute, for example.cheers tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Member 150 Member For: 18y 9m 27d Location: Qld Posted 10/05/06 08:24 AM Author Share Posted 10/05/06 08:24 AM Thanks to all for your input, which I appreciate greatly, I shall put the info to good use & at my age there will be no burnouts, just an older codger with a wolf in sheeps clothing to surprise some of these young hoons occasionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G6ET8U Playing with Sports Bikes... Silver Donating Members 1,927 Member For: 19y 3m 14d Gender: Male Location: Whistling, GTX. Posted 10/05/06 10:10 AM Share Posted 10/05/06 10:10 AM Best value for $$$ I EVER spent on my car You won't regret it!!! I agree totally...Just make sure you do your homework on the tuner first... and coming here was the best move you've made so far!!Good luck with it!! You will love an edited T...Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Here since the start... Lifetime Members 10,282 Member For: 21y 9m 17d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 10/05/06 10:14 AM Share Posted 10/05/06 10:14 AM Nike ←Just do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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