F6 - Why No Dsc?

[-=thrasher=-]

I know it has ABS and TC, but as you know DSC is a different animal all together...

(backstory) My interest comes as I lost $35k worth of XR6 after swerving around a large kangaroo near the speed limiter (resulting in 100m worth of fishtailing.. almost under control, till I ran out of road to play with). So I'm very interested in DSC. If that car had DSC I've no doubt it would still be in my driveway today, not to mention skipping a visit to hospital.

So I don't ask as a tyrekicker who's sooking that it doesn't have the latest Three Letter Acronym bullsh1t technology, I'm asking if anyone can help me find out:

1) Why DSC isn't included on the F6? (yet is on the Turbo Territory)

2) If it's planned for future revisions of the F6? (and if so, when?)

All they need to do then is bring back Gunmetal Grey, get rid of the ridiculous (and redundant) starter button , put a graph on the boost gauge, and I'm sold!

That said, the F6 is a fantastic piece of machinery, even if it does cost you $90k by the time you tick the right boxes and put it on the road. I just hope that DSC and a few other improvements are made in the next revision.

cheers

[ZAP]

thrasher,

The reason there is no DSC is because they only sell 2500 FPV's per year and the calibration with the different wheels and brakes would cost to much....or that is what David Flint told me after I took him up on it.

I think is should be included and it better not come out in the Mk2 or I will demand that they add it to the mk1.

[Ford_Power]

I'm willing to bet it will be available on the MKII

Ross

[FSIX]

I was lucky enough to get an invite November last year at FPV to have a look at the new models and have a BBQ and info session, I spoke to David Flint about why no DSC, in short it came down to the mighty dollar, every car with different gearbox different ratio wheels, different diff would all need to be setup differently this could be a lot of different combo setups between the FPV range.

This Model was supposed to have the Mono Shock setup as-well, which got to the point of FPV signing of on the shocks with a company in Poland after 1st lot arrived with contaminated oil they FPV canned the whole thing as they run out of time.

It was important to FPV to hold the price of the car to the customer, F6 got the auto and the Brembo's standard at no extra cost, the ZF auto for $1300 is a bargain.

Expect to see the DSC & Mono Shocks on the series 2 or the next model.

An Australian Company are doing the shocks..

Edited 04/05/06 11:00 AM by Habbib

[-=thrasher=-]

Zap, Habbib, appreciate your taking the time to respond. I was hoping for a substantial answer, those provided were solid as concrete.

I guess it makes sense if you think like a project manager, and obviously the project-oriented approach is the bible in the mass car manufacturing industry. That said, we should be glad we have a car like the Falcon in Australia let alone 'boutique' versions like the Typhoon - given the world car market, it's amazing we have what we have. Maybe one day F6's and GT's will be a hot commodity, when all you can buy under $100k is pissy 2lt BMW's and front-wheel drive imports...

Until then, (rant) all I can say is thank f k FMCA and Tickford shed themselves of all the grey-haired old cardigan-wearers in management (Howard Marsden was worth more than all of them put together), otherwise "performance" would still mean round-eye headlights, a bit of body bling and a red rocker cover with a fearsome 7kw extra (pfft valves, cam, CR, exhaust, ign/fuel maps, real rocket scientists they were)

Hopefully with BFII I'll have the cash to splash to reward FPV for their vision and finally be able to stick it to the Ford critics around town!

cheers

[FSIX]

Hopefully with BFII I'll have the cash to splash to reward FPV for their vision and finally be able to stick it to the Ford critics around town!

I hope so too, it was pointed out to me when you only sell 2500 (app) units a year, any small changes can have a big impact on the cost of the car at retail sale.

Bit different when you are pushing out 50,000 base models a year the costs are shared across a lot more cars keeps price increases to a minimum.

Edited 04/05/06 02:45 PM by Habbib

[ZAP]

I would think that IF the DSC was available on the Mk2 FPV range, they could load the update into the mk1 cars as all the hardware is there to drive the DSC features.

[tab]

With emphasis on "could" though Zap - wouldn't hold your breath.

[veczar]

So you buy a performance car and pay more money for less saftey. If they were gona go by the $$ then the FPV's should get it not the XR6's.

Does it still work on a modded T? TC does!

[JBomb3000]

thrasher,

The reason there is no DSC is because they only sell 2500 FPV's per year and the calibration with the different wheels and brakes would cost to much....or that is what David Flint told me after I took him up on it.

I think is should be included and it better not come out in the Mk2 or I will demand that they add it to the mk1.

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Yeah I know how you feel Zap, I was pissed when the BF XR6T came out with 5 more kw than my BA mkii, so I went back to the dealer and demanded they fit mine with the BF engine, but for some reason I didn't have any luck