ZAP No boost, no bottle, just my foot on the throttle! Lifetime Members 7,935 Member For: 20y 9m 13d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 24/04/06 02:34 AM Share Posted 24/04/06 02:34 AM If you are running Shell Optimax then that will be the problem.It is not called Optisoot for nothing......Try running BP Ultimate and the problem will be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilXR6T Member 5 Member For: 18y 7m 4d Posted 24/04/06 07:10 AM Author Share Posted 24/04/06 07:10 AM I have only eve used BP ultimate in my car so that is why I was thinking it was the tune more than the fuel itself. Maybe its not just the right foot that causes such variation in the economy of these cars then. If there is so much variance in the T between runin mode and normal for AFRs, maybe this is another thing to keep an eye on when you get it serviced? Do ford usually check this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBOSS Faster than any BTA,XTC,Autotech, Nizpro and Tunehouse car Member 3,918 Member For: 21y 5m 4d Location: D SHIRE! Posted 24/04/06 09:21 AM Share Posted 24/04/06 09:21 AM Try running BP Ultimate and the problem will be gone.←So will your pwrThat must be what your running Mal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOOT Member 1,201 Member For: 21y 5m 8d Location: Birkdale Posted 24/04/06 10:56 PM Share Posted 24/04/06 10:56 PM To be honest none of the 98 fuesl are 98, MRT Rally Forums published an article testing the actual rating of the fuels and how much power each one made in a tuned WRX which was retuned on the dyno for each fuel, which was completely drained and cleaned before the next brand was put in.The highest performer was an Ethonal Blend 98 which made huge 20% gains over normal premium, then there was a large gap to the big three, BP, Shell and Caltex. Caltex was clearly ahead of the other 98 fuels and made the most power of the three (10-12% gain) and the other two both tested and were found to be only 96RON.CAltex is the only fuel supplier to actively test its 98 fuels to make sure they are correct (ever seen those mobile fuel testing vans getting around with caltec on them).Niether BP nor Shell would comment on the results.The Ethanol Fuel was some independant supplier, can't remember the name.Also tested in the same car was 5 different race fues all of which were 100 RON or higher and they all made the same power together (some 30% gain over 95 RON). high quality stuff and all very consistent.The end result was that neither BP or Shell 98 was really 98, Caltex was the only true 98 fuel. And the highest performer was a small independent supplier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69ADY Member 85 Member For: 19y 5m 19d Location: Sunny Coast, Qld Posted 25/04/06 02:49 AM Share Posted 25/04/06 02:49 AM To be honest none of the 98 fuesl are 98, MRT Rally Forums published an article testing the actual rating of the fuels and how much power each one made in a tuned WRX which was retuned on the dyno for each fuel, which was completely drained and cleaned before the next brand was put in.The highest performer was an Ethonal Blend 98 which made huge 20% gains over normal premium, then there was a large gap to the big three, BP, Shell and Caltex. Caltex was clearly ahead of the other 98 fuels and made the most power of the three (10-12% gain) and the other two both tested and were found to be only 96RON.CAltex is the only fuel supplier to actively test its 98 fuels to make sure they are correct (ever seen those mobile fuel testing vans getting around with caltec on them).Niether BP nor Shell would comment on the results.The Ethanol Fuel was some independant supplier, can't remember the name.Also tested in the same car was 5 different race fues all of which were 100 RON or higher and they all made the same power together (some 30% gain over 95 RON). high quality stuff and all very consistent.The end result was that neither BP or Shell 98 was really 98, Caltex was the only true 98 fuel. And the highest performer was a small independent supplier.←Makes you wonder if the new Shell 100ron fuel we heard about, is really going to be 100ron... or will IT be a 98ish unstead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilXR6T Member 5 Member For: 18y 7m 4d Posted 25/04/06 12:21 PM Author Share Posted 25/04/06 12:21 PM To be honest none of the 98 fuesl are 98, MRT Rally Forums published an article testing the actual rating of the fuels and how much power each one made in a tuned WRX which was retuned on the dyno for each fuel, which was completely drained and cleaned before the next brand was put in.The highest performer was an Ethonal Blend 98 which made huge 20% gains over normal premium, then there was a large gap to the big three, BP, Shell and Caltex. Caltex was clearly ahead of the other 98 fuels and made the most power of the three (10-12% gain) and the other two both tested and were found to be only 96RON.CAltex is the only fuel supplier to actively test its 98 fuels to make sure they are correct (ever seen those mobile fuel testing vans getting around with caltec on them).Niether BP nor Shell would comment on the results.The Ethanol Fuel was some independant supplier, can't remember the name.Also tested in the same car was 5 different race fues all of which were 100 RON or higher and they all made the same power together (some 30% gain over 95 RON). high quality stuff and all very consistent.The end result was that neither BP or Shell 98 was really 98, Caltex was the only true 98 fuel. And the highest performer was a small independent supplier.←We hear many stories where people get bad batches of fuel or independent studies showing fuel is not what it seems, so who do we have actually keeping these guys honest?? Is there a body that does random checks and minimizes the risk to the consumer? Oil companies refine this fuel to correct levels, but Ive heard that hi octane fuel goes off quicker than standard fuel. I would be interested to know how long it takes fuel to degrade and how long it takes typically to get to the servo? Anyone have any idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopism Tractor Driver Member 709 Member For: 18y 9m 17d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 26/04/06 08:02 AM Share Posted 26/04/06 08:02 AM To be honest none of the 98 fuesl are 98, MRT Rally Forums published an article testing the actual rating of the fuels and how much power each one made in a tuned WRX which was retuned on the dyno for each fuel, which was completely drained and cleaned before the next brand was put in.←Got a link? I can't find it on MRT's site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOOT Member 1,201 Member For: 21y 5m 8d Location: Birkdale Posted 26/04/06 08:44 AM Share Posted 26/04/06 08:44 AM http://www.lotustrophy.com.au/sites/lotusc...CommonFuels.pdfTry that one - take you straight to the PDF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopism Tractor Driver Member 709 Member For: 18y 9m 17d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 27/04/06 05:17 AM Share Posted 27/04/06 05:17 AM To be honest none of the 98 fuesl are 98, MRT Rally Forums published an article testing the actual rating of the fuels and how much power each one made in a tuned WRX which was retuned on the dyno for each fuel, which was completely drained and cleaned before the next brand was put in.←So from reading the article as written, at no time was the actual RON/MON number of the fuels measured. So the results they saw were only valid for the time of purchase of those fuels, and can't be relied upon as authoritative.Shame really, there was a lot of potential there to get some good information out to the enthusiast public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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