Coolant Change

[cqae]

coolant sdhould do both raise boiling point & lower freezing point. also, stray current is exaclty what it says-stray. usually a loose earth lead so the electrical device in question tries to earth through the cool creating this problem. was never a problem with the old copper radiators but has become an issue with newer plastic tanked cars. it can kill a radiator in a matter of weeks from what I have heard, although IU have never seen it this bad. We have a little tester that just lights up, but basically a multimeter can detect it in the coolant.

the other issue you guys have brought upo is called electrolisis which is created but suspending to disimilar metals in a fluid. This creates a cell which makes one of the metals deterorate. inhibitor is used to prevent this, a good coolant should have both. at 30% levels are adequate, the protection properties of coolant increase with concentration until about 60% when they start to fall away.

you will find in some of the crappier cars-eg daewoo the concentration was raised top 50% I thinks it to protect an engine that is a little suseptable to corrosion issues

[Ralph Wiggum]

be careful with running cold water through a hot engine.  ever put a dish from the freezer into a hot oven or visa versa?

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Its pretty obvious, no one will be filling or draining fluids or water when the enigne IS HOT!!!

Its pretty much common sense. But indeed, a good suggestion, its better to be safe then sorry i guess.

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San the best time to change the engine oil is when it is hot. that way you get the maximum amount of oil out of the engine (because its thinner when hot and flows better) and you get the maximum amount of contaminents suspended in the oil as it flows out...

[Chris xr6]

be careful with running cold water through a hot engine.  ever put a dish from the freezer into a hot oven or visa versa?

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Its pretty obvious, no one will be filling or draining fluids or water when the enigne IS HOT!!!

Its pretty much common sense. But indeed, a good suggestion, its better to be safe then sorry I guess.

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Guys what do you think happens when your thermostat opens on a cold morning?

[Chooka]

A rock seems to work well at draining the radiator!!

As I found out yesterday on the bike!!

Chooka

[PSYCHO XRT]

be careful with running cold water through a hot engine.  ever put a dish from the freezer into a hot oven or visa versa?

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Its pretty obvious, no one will be filling or draining fluids or water when the enigne IS HOT!!!

Its pretty much common sense. But indeed, a good suggestion, its better to be safe then sorry I guess.

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San the best time to change the engine oil is when it is hot. that way you get the maximum amount of oil out of the engine (because its thinner when hot and flows better) and you get the maximum amount of contaminents suspended in the oil as it flows out...

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Yea I know the best time to change the oil is when its warm, or at running temperature, but my comment wasnt relating to oil change, it was for coolant change.

I meant to say was that obviously no one will be doing an coolant change at a boiling point. Not for oil buddy.

[PSYCHO XRT]

nearly every manufacturer recomends 30% or 50%.  dont use pre mixes & tectaloy is not much good from what I am told.  Go for a long life organic coolant.  the 500ml concentrates do not offer enough protection, especially in a large system like a ford.  We have dip strips that are like litmus paper & they show protection levels.  can be bought from repco or bursons to be used to find out protection  levels.

you need 33% of glycol.  this provides both anti rust & anti boil/freeze protection.  the system will have about 10-12 litres so you put in about 3-4 litres of concentrate and top up with water.  the 500ml bottle are usually just for top ups.  also if you put in a pre-mix, that doesnt account for the a water still in the block.,  even if you remove the block drain plugs you wont get it all out.

there has been a lot of debate in the industry as to how to do it, but long story short. every one agrees with good flush & add cooloant at manufacturers recomended concetration. failure to do so may void warranty

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If we purchase Coolant r133 (9Litres Recommended by Ford)w, would we add all of that 9Litres? Or,would I add 3-4L's and then to top it up with water? Im going to be flushing and adding fluid for the first time, so pls help out.

cheers, San.

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So, can any one shed sum info with my above comment??

[cqae]

BA cooling system capacity is 10.3-10.5 litres according to my service info. with a concentration of 33% so doing the maths you need to put about 3.5 litres of coolant in. You could safely put in up to about 5 litres in that was you can afford to dilute the system a little with top ups & still maitain between 30-50%. If the coolant you bought is recomending you put 9 litres in it must be a premix. It is near impossible to put all 10 litres in even though this is the capacity.

I drain the radiator & fill through the thermo housing until no more gos in. put the thermo back in & bolt it up then tip the rest in through the bottle. Usually only get aroun 6-7 litres in total, that's just my 10cents worth, its how I dow it & we have done hundreds of falcons at my shop.

as far as coolants go, I like the organic long life coolants. The last for 5 years & are lest destructive when whey end there life. Also are much more conmpatable with contaminants. Ours is orange & stands out when a leak develops so is an aid in finding leaks eventually

[PSYCHO XRT]

Ok, I spoke to Ford and their are Premixes (R-114) available of which 10l's are required when adding this specific Coolant in a BA or BF. Ford did say that if I was to use this coolant, no additions of water was required as its already Pre-Mixed.

The other alternative also suggested by Ford was using 5litres of (R-133) Concentrator, insead of a Pre-Mix.

As advised by Ford, This Concentrator is more commonoly used when servicing vehicles. But, with this option extra 5litres of water is required when topping up unlike the Pre-Mix where nuthn is required.

From all the advise that I have received from Ford dealers, I have chosen to go for the R-133, as its more commonoly used and the fact that its the recommended coolant for BA's.

I was also told that in general its better then the R-114 even though that being a "NEWER" upgraded coolant.

So, what do u GURU'S think? Should I stick with the R-133??

Or is there something better than this?

I hope this info helps to ppl wanting to change their coolant, especially those ppl wanting info on Ford Coolant.

Cheer's

San.

[PSYCHO XRT]

Ok, I spoke to Ford and their are Premixes (R-114) available of which 10l's are required when adding this specific Coolant in a BA or BF. Ford did say that if I was to use this coolant, no additions of water was required as its already Pre-Mixed.

The other alternative also suggested by Ford was using 5litres of (R-133) Concentrator, insead of a Pre-Mix.

As advised by Ford, This Concentrator is more commonoly used when servicing vehicles. But, with this option extra 5litres of water is required when topping up unlike the Pre-Mix where nuthn is required.

From all the advise that I have received from Ford dealers, I have chosen to go for the R-133, as its more commonoly used and the fact that its the recommended coolant for BA's.

I was also told that in general its better then the R-114 even though that being a "NEWER" upgraded coolant.

So, what do u GURU'S think? Should I stick with the R-133??

Or is there something better than this?

I hope this info helps to ppl wanting to change their coolant, especially those ppl wanting info on Ford Coolant.

Cheer's

San.

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Forgot to add in my previous post that the 5litres of R-133 will cost me $58 if I go ahead, where as the pre-mix will cost me $85 for 10litres.

[PSYCHO XRT]

Ok, I spoke to Ford and their are Premixes (R-114) available of which 10l's are required when adding this specific Coolant in a BA or BF. Ford did say that if I was to use this coolant, no additions of water was required as its already Pre-Mixed.

The other alternative also suggested by Ford was using 5litres of (R-133) Concentrator, insead of a Pre-Mix.

As advised by Ford, This Concentrator is more commonoly used when servicing vehicles. But, with this option extra 5litres of water is required when topping up unlike the Pre-Mix where nuthn is required.

From all the advise that I have received from Ford dealers, I have chosen to go for the R-133, as its more commonoly used and the fact that its the recommended coolant for BA's.

I was also told that in general its better then the R-114 even though that being a "NEWER" upgraded coolant.

So, what do u GURU'S think? Should I stick with the R-133??

Or is there something better than this?

I hope this info helps to ppl wanting to change their coolant, especially those ppl wanting info on Ford Coolant.

Cheer's

San.

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Forgot to add in my previous post that the 5litres of R-133 will cost me $58 if I go ahead, where as the pre-mix will cost me $85 for 10litres.

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Any suggestions??