xlnt6 Donating Members 350 Member For: 20y 6m 15d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne, Victoria Posted 03/04/06 12:17 PM Share Posted 03/04/06 12:17 PM Was talking today with someone that knows a thing or two about the future development of the Falcon, and as most people know the new platform is called the Orion. That's not the name of the car as such, just the "project" name. He was saying that the updated T will use a smaller Garrett turbo than is currently used on BA/BF, but the target HP is greater. The FPV series (Typhoon) will be just above 300 rwkW and the GT/GTP a bit more again. The platform target date is 2008, so it's a while to go yet. The Typhoon will get a bigger front mount again than BF, and across the T range the intake plumbing has been revised due to a new intake plenum design, the intercooler is a cross flow design (ie not looping back on itself), which means the intake path is much shorter. To get the power up on the Boss a revised head design and intake system is also used.I was a bit disappointed to hear about the turbo downsizing, but I guess that's cost cutting. Anybody else heard anything ???CheersRobin. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/24509-new-falcon-orion-platform-2008/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
saleen Big Gun Donating Members 4,170 Member For: 22y 6m 6d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 03/04/06 12:21 PM Share Posted 03/04/06 12:21 PM Smaller turbo, bigger intercooler? 300rwkw from the factory? DUDE!!!! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/24509-new-falcon-orion-platform-2008/#findComment-366856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ2CME Formerly XR6NA Member 3,512 Member For: 19y 4m 17d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 03/04/06 12:35 PM Share Posted 03/04/06 12:35 PM I thought the government would have something to say about the high power output from a stock car. But 300rwkw from a stock car is just awesome. I wonder what Expensive Daewoo have planned to combat this. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/24509-new-falcon-orion-platform-2008/#findComment-366865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave-T Member 96 Member For: 19y 9m 22d Location: Melbourne Posted 03/04/06 01:23 PM Share Posted 03/04/06 01:23 PM Why would they be quoting rear wheel power and not flywheel power? Sounds a bit sus to me....XR6NA, Expensive Daewoo have a twin turbo SV6 in the pipeline... or so I have heard. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/24509-new-falcon-orion-platform-2008/#findComment-366876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flukey Seriously Flukey Member Donating Members 4,354 Member For: 21y 26d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 03/04/06 01:29 PM Share Posted 03/04/06 01:29 PM xlnt6 said: The FPV series (Typhoon) will be just above 300 rwkW and the GT/GTP a bit more again.R u sure its RWKW's? Fly wheel would be more like it. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/24509-new-falcon-orion-platform-2008/#findComment-366877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloan Member 379 Member For: 21y 9m 8d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne. Posted 03/04/06 02:22 PM Share Posted 03/04/06 02:22 PM Nothing has been or will be signed off on this project until a new EBA is finalised! The company & the unions are currently in negotions! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/24509-new-falcon-orion-platform-2008/#findComment-366884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiboart Member 665 Member For: 20y 3m 1d Posted 03/04/06 08:29 PM Share Posted 03/04/06 08:29 PM So the Turbo cars will have their air intake on the turbo side of the engine?Is there any news about hybrids?Regards,aa Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/24509-new-falcon-orion-platform-2008/#findComment-366889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlnt6 Donating Members 350 Member For: 20y 6m 15d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne, Victoria Posted 03/04/06 09:41 PM Author Share Posted 03/04/06 09:41 PM Quote R u sure its RWKW's? Fly wheel would be more like it.Yeah, sorry folks, I'm so use to using rwkW, I should have said just kW or fwkW. Apologies for the confusion. After all, if it were rwKW, that means there would be less scope for mods !!! Quote So the Turbo cars will have their air intake on the turbo side of the engine?I'm not sure if that is the case of not, would seem the logical thing to do. The piping I was talking about was the turbo outlet to IC to throttle body being more direct. The outlet of the turbo will be straight up (a la the Territory turbo), but then loop back down per the BA/BF. He couldn't understand why this would be done, except for parts commonality with the Terry T.Robin. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/24509-new-falcon-orion-platform-2008/#findComment-366897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyc Member 141 Member For: 22y 6m 6d Posted 04/04/06 04:39 AM Share Posted 04/04/06 04:39 AM All great news all round. VE is going to be big, falcon will need to match it on price, performance AND economy. Personally I hope they shrink falcon slightly. There are sooooo many benifits of a smaller chassis.Disapointing re the V8 if they're still using the BOSS 5.4 - truck engine. Falcon needs a high-rev, short stroke V8, not a truck engine. Something closer to LS1 & LS2. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/24509-new-falcon-orion-platform-2008/#findComment-367058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxx Colossal Member Member 5,049 Member For: 20y 7m 23d Gender: Male Location: Perth, WA Posted 04/04/06 05:01 AM Share Posted 04/04/06 05:01 AM What, and go backwards in technology?? No way, Ford downsized the engine and increased the power output... why would they go back to a crappy design? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/24509-new-falcon-orion-platform-2008/#findComment-367074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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