F6 Ute Rips A Holeshot

[Lawsy]

  geea said:

  Lawsy said:

*Snip* What I said earlier

Lawsy, my car has run an 11.1@125 with pump fuel and in full street trim. My Michelins are a very good tyre and I still reckon that at a set of lights on a dry road I would be able to win. The thing with lights is I can still get my car loaded whilst we wait for it to change. I can't load past 2000rpm as it will spin on most roads, so it doesn't take much to load it. If we both mash the brake and then the gas that should do for me.

The other thing your not considering is the drivers. How many of the people with these cars can actually drive them? I know I can drive mine.

Like I said earlier, if you're able to organise 1 in Melbourne somewhere I'll give them a few runs.

Geea.

That is true to a point, but rather than being a lack of skill, its a lack of knowledge... Of their cars strength..

So most of them know how to do it, because they took the driving course with the car, they are just soft core eunuch's (ie, no balls).

The point is that a lambo merci, on a non prepped track, will do 11.5 all day in most conditinos. Motor managed an 11.7 in very unfriendly conditions. Consider this: Its computer knows the inlet temp and rough humidity, and changes AFRs and timing accordingly, varying output by a fair amount.

On a track, I would say an 11.4 is on the cards, if not an 11.2 or better.

Your pump-fuel-map time of under 11.2 would, on the road, be down about 0.1-0.2 of a second from rollout alone. That, and the surface differences mean that you're struggling to get a correvit to read south of 11.7. Add in 45º inlet temps (like Motor's airstrip run in the Merci) and you're really left wanting.

Again I have to mention, it has tyres that are not only wider, but stickier. Oh, and having a similarly sticky pair of tyres up the front doing 30% of the work really helps....

Considering that most street light drags (on private roads that just happen to have street lights of course.... ) are not 400m long...

They are 100m or less.

You can't do the same 60' time of a car that has 4wd, weighs less, has more outright power, insanely more grip, better gearing and also with 400nm of torque from just 1000rpm. (This swells to 95% of peak torque, from 2500rpm till forever, then goes on to producing max power at 80 million rpm (a VERY wide power band to say the least). And its launch control doesn't drop below about 2500rpm when it gets a tickle...)

It's physics; you just have to consider everything, leaving all ego's at home. Put it all together and you get a logical answer.

And my answer is that you'll lose on the street most times, especially if he knows what hes doing, because you don't have 400m to come around him; you'll basically have a slippery intersection and a lane that's ending or merging 100m down the road. Even if the driver is a goose, as long as he/she is in sport, the electronics will take care of everything once the boot goes to the firewall.

Don't even think about it in the wet, or around a slight bend...

But, and buts are always good (when they are female), you will dominate on the track, everytime, without question. You could wheelspin for 20 meters, and still come around to win.

So you win some and you lose some. Just be happy to know that your car is faster - when the conditions are right - than something worth 12 times as much, as well as being purpose built for speed....

That puts it all into perspective, don't you think?

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