Is It Worth Challenging A Multanova?

[F6 UTE]

  newl said:

Statistics show that there are more accidents at lower speeds though. Another factual tidbit with associated question, why if Australian roads are designed for 130km/h are there artificial limits placed upon the road and/or vehicles that use them?

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More accidents at lower speeds. Of course. I travel alot of k's but my average speed is 55kph. probably higher than most city drivers. Accidents happen in traffic. traffic equals lower speeds and lower speed limits. Open Hwy, not alot of traffic, not alot of intersections, and how many sets of light in a 110kph zone?? none.

Easter traffic, lots of congestion on open roads, lots of ppl on the open road, more accidents where there wouldn't usually be.

Everything has to be overengineered. If the roads were designed for 110kph, and someone had an accident and claimed they were travelling at 111kph they could sue. They were not technically speeding, but travelling beyond what the surface was designed for. 130kph however, you would never get away with that in court.

[Lumpen]

  F6 UTE said:

No, they sometimes do flash every car, checking for drivers wearing seatbelts, stolen cars etc..

Not your sandgroper Multinova's but in Qld they have to manually flash a non-speeding car at least once an hour to show that the machine is in order. Typically it shows are car doing 95 or 98 etc, so that can be used as evidence if you're determined to say it wasn't calibrated.

However, if you are luckily pinged over the limit with a manual test flash, then it can't be used to fine you

I find it amazingly easy to creep to 120 (no cruise) without realising, even for a split second. Best luck with the fine.

Lumpy

[ZAP]

/Rant On

The whole Revenue camera scheme is a JOKE and we are the butt of the joke.

You are a joke if you believe that a speed camera saves lives

You are a joke if you do not think that the SOLE purpose of a SC is to raise revenue

You are a joke if you this the government has any interest in actually reducing the road toll through the use of SC

You are a joke if you think that speeding kills

Now I am over the joking, IF any government had any intention of reducing the road toll, they would start to teach people how to drive properly.

Since the government uses statistics to backup their claim, I would say that over 99% of Crashes are caused by bad driving. Cars to not crash by them selves, it takes several factors to cause a crash.

Be it the driver was excessivly speeding to the conditions, was drunk, stoned, car was not roadworthy, distracted by many things (phone,kids, etc)

Why does the govenmnet realise we are not stupid and that we should be teaching EVERYBODY how to drive properly, then we would see a massive reduction in ALL crashes.

/Rant Off

[cobrav8]

Zap - do you not accept that we all make cock-ups sometimes?

If you are going 50km/h and make a cock-up - you will probably survive.

If you are doing 200km/h and make a cock-up - chances are you would be killed.

Most people are dangerous at 100km/h

So.... speed is definately a contributing factor in deaths. Granted, if you are a good driver, either by nature or instruction - then you have a better chance of not cocking-up in the first place.

I like speed, I race cars, I get tickets on the road from time to time, but also accept that speed definately contributes to deaths.

[ZAP]

Cobra,

Of course we all make mistakes and this is why we are human and will always find ways to kill ourselves, but my issue is with the way the "road toll" issue is treated.

Instead of education, we get punnishment, but if we know no better, punnishment will not be effective.

If ALL drivers were made to do a theory and driving test every 5 years and also do a car control and advanced driving course, we would all be better for it.

Teaching people how a car reacts in a slide, at speed, at a emergency stop is a mandatory excercise in my view as most people will only experience this 1 second before they run up the back of your car or T bone you.

Driving is a dangerous thing to do as there are many people out there that suffer from a severe case of NFI.

These people could kill you or I anytime we go out on or near the road.

Education is the ONLY solution to our driving problems. If need be keep the cameras, but make the governments use ALL the money from them to improve drivers and roads.

I am sick of the BS these pathetic governments keep spinning about the road toll and how speed cameras are the only solution. They say that the xxx 1000's of people booked have saved lives, what a crock of sh!t.

The only reason our road toll has remained static over the past 10is cars are safer and nothing else, but there are significantly more accidents every year.

[IH8TOADS]

  F6 UTE said:

  nang3 said:

ive had plenty flash at me when im under the limit by at least 10kph, but the fine hasnt arrived.. woudlnt surprise me if it just takes random photos of random cars and gives them a random speed, all designed to reach a quota

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No, they sometimes do flash every car, checking for drivers wearing seatbelts, stolen cars etc..

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Haaaa well ive been flashed and fined whilst being on the mobile....and doing much worse things......these never got a mention!!!!

GO CHECK THE PHOTO....is all I can say.

Oh and take it too court if ya want....... costs an extra $70 usually takes at least 6-8 months to get there and is a great day out if you have buggerall to do!!!

[Paradoxx]

Bring the kids they'll love it

[Lightning]

Most of you are missing the point. IF I was exceeding the speed limit, then I have no problem paying the fine and losing the point(s).

The point (ahem) in this case is that I honestly (and it will as likely do me no point other than in here) do not believe I was speeding as I set the cruise control to what equates to 110 km/h from Augusta to the freeway, regularly use the adjustment or coast buttons to slow down through towns and the multitude of speed zone changes. So, I DON'T SPEED. I used to. It's not worth it now days. So, I guess they do have a result.

I will check the photo (meant to today, but slept in) and see if it fits the ONLY situation I can think of (overtaking lane). If not, I will play it by ear and explore my options.

While $100 is $100, it is relatively disposable income for me. On the other hand, court costs wouldn't be. I have all of my demerit points, so 1 less won't make a difference.

So, get my point? I feel I've been wronged and it pisses me off big time to feel that I am screwed either way.

Thanks for the feedback, though, appreciated.

Lightning....

[Ralph Wiggum]

160kmph in a fifteen ton excavator? WOW! who tuned it? are you going to run it at the plex?? i'd imagine traction wouldnt be an issue if your running tracks....what are the 60ft times like?....and if you where going to lose you could always lower the boom and crowd the stick so they crossed the line first....

[kawerx]

a freind of mine received a camera fine a couple of weeks ago.(victoria)

106 in a 100 zone.

he went to the infringment office to see the photo.

he saw the photo and it had 2 other cars in it.

he was told they only take 1 photo.

he decided to contest the case and sent in the paper work to go to court.

he then receives photo in the mail.

gues what,his car is the ONLY car in the photo.

he goes back to revenue office and asks to see the origanal photo.

his car is the only one in the photo and was told again they only take one photo.

sounds to me like the photo was edited to suit their case.

he is still going to contest this.

good luck I reckon.

So look out.the cops have edit too!!!!!