Intake Upgrade

[Ralph Wiggum]

Im thinking about upgrading my intake system to either the nizpro set or going to tha Capa/votech water to air intercooler setup

theres bugger all difference in price between the two but i like to idea of the water to air intercooler with its seperate radiator and pump setup for more consistant inlet temps.

i read a performance mag that had a half detailed write up about the capa set up and after speaking to capa today they say it the only set up like that they sold.

dont spose the person with the one capa setup in on this forum or anybody knows them and could give some insight into how the system works and what the install process was like..?

thanks

Luke

[blueboost]

I don't know who got one, but the idea is good, and does work, if you want some thing with the shortest plumbing possible, the capa setup is the go, I thought about going this way, so I can fill with ice at the drags, and drop the intake temp right down.

that said, in the end I have ordered the Nizpro kit because it is simple to fit, works well, and looks so neat under the hood. this is where the Capa kit falls down,

if that does not bother you, I can say that you will have something diffrent to everyone else, and we will all look foward to seeing how it performes with an edit and the like, it will be very responsive, and with ice added it will set new levels of power that a air to air can not reach. (under the same circumstances)

David

[Ralph Wiggum]

thats sort of what im thinking. Imagine the power you could develop with inlet temps that low. i think that with a lick of paint or maybe some polishing you could definatly make it look a bit better.

I love how short the inlet tract is and i imagine the throttle response would be amazing.

im just a touch picky when it comes to laying down my hard earned and wouldnt mind a bit more info about it first.

I asked capa for a info set or parts breakdown but unfortunatly they dont have any more details on it that they could provide me with.

I also really really like the idea of a reliable 300+rwkw car with absolutly no sign externally for what its got.....ie no front mount intercooler.....very sneaky...

Edited 02/03/06 01:50 AM by hiddeous

[F6 UTE]

Water/Air coolers are great for short bursts. Unless you have an external radiator which is very effective ( It might include one ) the water temp gets up and doesn't cool the charge air very well.

Having said that, loose a couple of hours at www.are.com.au they have the best water/air intercooling systems I have seen.

[ducatijb]

That Capa setup about 3 years old,one of the 1st setups for the T... I think it's now obsolete

[Ralph Wiggum]

Water/Air coolers are great for short bursts. Unless you have an external radiator which is very effective ( It might include one ) the water temp gets up and doesn't cool the charge air very well.

Having said that, loose a couple of hours at www.are.com.au they have the best water/air intercooling systems I have seen.

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The Capa set up has a 7 litre water tank mounted in front of the rhf wheel behind the bumper. it also runs a aftercooler radiator with a thermo fan. I gather with all this gear it would be capable of more than just short bursts. How much coolant does the T's cooling system hold? I'd tend to think that 7 litres of water with its own radiator wouldnt struggle to keep up with the heat generated in the inlet tract.

thanks for the website...i'l have a bit of a read.....

edit: i've also noticed after doing a bit of fishing around on summit racing's website and noticed that the cost of the package is pretty fair considering the cost of the vortech cooler units out of the states....they also seem to be fairly common on supercharged cars running both centrifugal and roots type blowers....i'd tend to think if they can handle constant boost from supercharger a turbo's shorter burst of heat shouldnt stress them too much

what do you guys reckon?

Edited 02/03/06 03:20 AM by hiddeous

[FPV TRANNY]

Id be keen to try something different like this.What sort of money is it for the Water/Air IC?

[Ralph Wiggum]

The whole set up including the after cooler, inlet plenum, water radiator an thermo and pumps and hoses is $4200.

i was looking at doing the nizpro set up and thats about the same $'s so i think it would be an interesting alternative

the magazine article i have says that the core can support 600hp with a 0.5 psi drop so to support 380 to 400kw should be well and truly within its limits

[CnC]

hiddeous,

Personally I think that you would be better served to go with the Nizpro air-air intercooler.

You mentioned throttle response, the Nizpro intercooler shortens the intercooler piping around 2m over the factory piping. This is due to the fact that the piping isnt looping back on itself like it does with the factory, it is direct from the turbocharger, into the intercooler, then out of the intercooler directly into the throttle body mounted on the Nizpro intake manifold.

The air-air system will also be more reliable by definition than the water-air intercooler system due to reduced complexity (less components) and no requirement for a pumping setup.

You will have to consider the fact that you will need to also upgrade to use the Nizpro intake manifold at the same time however. This piece of kit is a very well constructed and shaped intake manifold so you will also get a increase in power from this as well. The cost of the intake manifold and intercooler should be just over $3000 which is less than the CAPA water-air intercooler alone with the added bonus of getting an upgraded intake manifold at the same time!

Checkout the Nizpro website for more information. Hopefully that is of some help to you.

Regards,

Kris.

[Guest]

heres some pic's...

anyone know where this intake came from, spotted at the FPV open day last weekend.

Nizpro's intake, nothing looks more the part very sexy up close larger in real life.