geea Site protagonist Lifetime Members 4,320 Member For: 21y 7m 12d Gender: Male Location: At the lights, waiting for you. Posted 09/03/06 05:03 PM Share Posted 09/03/06 05:03 PM If someone gives me a manual with a good clutch and 370rwkw's on HPF's dyno I'll give you an 11 in a manual. Geea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcl Toughest BA Turbo Lifetime Members 3,408 Member For: 22y Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 09/03/06 08:26 PM Share Posted 09/03/06 08:26 PM If someone gives me a manual with a good clutch and 370rwkw's on HPF's dyno I'll give you an 11 in a manual. Geea. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Craig,It's far easier said than done, and the odds are against you.I assume that you're talking MT's, not typical street tyres. You have 3 major things working against you:1. slow gear changes:: assuming T56 you can't really change quick enough (for my liking). RIP shift may help a lot.2. gearing: with a T56 & 3.73 diff you have a top speed in 4th of around 112mph at 5800 revs, so with 370rwkw you need to shift into 5th. 4-5 gear change is not a fast shift. With my 1 experience at WSID shifting into 5th at around 350m I found that given the time to change gear my speed didn't really increase in the last 50 metres. A 3.46 diff would give an extra 8mph over a 3.73 diff at 5800 revs in 4th.3. low stock rev limit of 5800 revs: especially the impact of how fast you can go in 4th: increasing rev limit is really only useful if you are still generating good power, and better with modified turbo and cams. Another 1200 revs (say to 7000) would give another 16mph capability in 4th.Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summoner Member 288 Member For: 19y 4m 19d Posted 09/03/06 08:57 PM Share Posted 09/03/06 08:57 PM Some one give me a non slipping clutch and some sticky street tyres and I'll have a crack at it :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueboost Member 1,204 Member For: 20y 6m 27d Gender: Male Location: Mackay NorthQueensland Posted 09/03/06 09:07 PM Share Posted 09/03/06 09:07 PM 1st runs down the quarter in a manuel f6, (a person that has hardly run at the drags before) and he was pulling 1.89 60ftswith m/t's ,standed clutch,detune the power under 4000rpm so you can leave the line doing a 1.8 60ft then let the power do the rest.put that 60ft in front of your time you have already got and it will show a 11 sec run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogo Member of team Kittens Member 609 Member For: 20y 10m 1d Location: Melbourne Posted 10/03/06 12:17 AM Share Posted 10/03/06 12:17 AM Gogo: Out of interest, what's your rev limit set at?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>At the moment the hard limit is at 6200rpm - but if I get serious in chasing this then this will lift to about 6500 - 6800rpm with some additional go which will require new rods in the motor as a minimum.First step is to get the right clutch in the car - my launches are slow with little capacity to slip the existing organic unit I have limiting flexibility and ability to practice this.Immediately my target is mid 12's, then we will see from there...Cheers,Ben. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogo Member of team Kittens Member 609 Member For: 20y 10m 1d Location: Melbourne Posted 10/03/06 12:23 AM Share Posted 10/03/06 12:23 AM If someone gives me a manual with a good clutch and 370rwkw's on HPF's dyno I'll give you an 11 in a manual. Geea. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Craig,It's far easier said than done, and the odds are against you.I assume that you're talking MT's, not typical street tyres. You have 3 major things working against you:1. slow gear changes:: assuming T56 you can't really change quick enough (for my liking). RIP shift may help a lot.2. gearing: with a T56 & 3.73 diff you have a top speed in 4th of around 112mph at 5800 revs, so with 370rwkw you need to shift into 5th. 4-5 gear change is not a fast shift. With my 1 experience at WSID shifting into 5th at around 350m I found that given the time to change gear my speed didn't really increase in the last 50 metres. A 3.46 diff would give an extra 8mph over a 3.73 diff at 5800 revs in 4th.3. low stock rev limit of 5800 revs: especially the impact of how fast you can go in 4th: increasing rev limit is really only useful if you are still generating good power, and better with modified turbo and cams. Another 1200 revs (say to 7000) would give another 16mph capability in 4th.Brian<{POST_SNAPBACK}>All correct,I figure that if I do some work on the engine I would be looking at a capacity of nearly 140mph in fourth with the 3.46 diff @6800rpm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogo Member of team Kittens Member 609 Member For: 20y 10m 1d Location: Melbourne Posted 10/03/06 12:25 AM Share Posted 10/03/06 12:25 AM If someone gives me a manual with a good clutch and 370rwkw's on HPF's dyno I'll give you an 11 in a manual. Geea. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Who knows Craig... You might get an opportunity to give it a try... Just not for a few months... Cheers, Ben. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxx Colossal Member Member 5,049 Member For: 20y 4m Gender: Male Location: Perth, WA Posted 10/03/06 12:49 AM Share Posted 10/03/06 12:49 AM ............If only I had more powerI can't do it captain! If I give her any more, the whole things gonna blow!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvyk Member 1,070 Member For: 19y 9m 23d Location: The North Cooma End of Canberra... Posted 10/03/06 02:02 AM Share Posted 10/03/06 02:02 AM 2. gearing: with a T56 & 3.73 diff you have a top speed in 4th of around 112mph at 5800 revs, so with 370rwkw you need to shift into 5th. 4-5 gear change is not a fast shift. With my 1 experience at WSID shifting into 5th at around 350m I found that given the time to change gear my speed didn't really increase in the last 50 metres. A 3.46 diff would give an extra 8mph over a 3.73 diff at 5800 revs in 4th.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm assuming a 3.73 diff is not standard? as I can easily do 190KM in 4th... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geea Site protagonist Lifetime Members 4,320 Member For: 21y 7m 12d Gender: Male Location: At the lights, waiting for you. Posted 10/03/06 02:11 AM Share Posted 10/03/06 02:11 AM If someone gives me a manual with a good clutch and 370rwkw's on HPF's dyno I'll give you an 11 in a manual. Geea. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Who knows Craig... You might get an opportunity to give it a try... Just not for a few months... Cheers, Ben.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sounds good Ben I cant wait. I also hear what Brian's saying and agree, it will be hard. Yes I'd wan't to be using MT's. Without them forget it. Geea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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