harvyk Member 1,070 Member For: 20y 2m 13d Location: The North Cooma End of Canberra... Posted 30/01/06 02:38 AM Share Posted 30/01/06 02:38 AM I'd try your hardest to get the report from Ford...Whilst I agree with the you play you pay idea (Even if it was the previous owner who did the mods) I also think Ford should be forced into giving evidence that a mod caused the issue before cancelling a warranty...I'd pursue the matter but with the intention of getting the engineers report. Ford will probably just give it to you if you tell them once you have it you'll go away...Register a complant with Consumer Affairs as well, highlighting not the fact that Ford are not doing warranty work, but the fact that they are refusing to do with without providing evidence as to why...Keep in mind that Ford are a huge company with basically unlimited resources before going down the strictly legal route (Which you have to pay for), as you'll go broke long before Ford does and they know it, plus if they give in once it could open the flood gates against Ford for other such claims... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/22948-somethings-fishy-here/page/4/#findComment-341900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrb93 Member 84 Member For: 19y 4m 2d Posted 30/01/06 02:55 AM Share Posted 30/01/06 02:55 AM Why don't they just build the motors as tough as Toyota build the 2jz? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/22948-somethings-fishy-here/page/4/#findComment-341910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobrav8 Member 1,969 Member For: 20y 1m 20d Gender: Male Location: New Zealand Posted 30/01/06 02:55 AM Share Posted 30/01/06 02:55 AM xrboss8 said: Them as in, have spoken to the service manager and asked him to get me a report. asked multiple times and he said sent multiple emails to the engineer contractor. This was over a month and a bit Finally had enough then rang the 13FORD number asked them to get me a report. Was told they would get back to me, finally no call in a week so rang up 13FORD again. They told me that the service manager had told me I wouldn't get a report, which of course he didn't. The representive continues to tell me because I didn't pay for the analysis that ford own the report and would I not be able to see it in case it goes to court. What are they hiding?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>If you do go to court they will be required to provide the report as evidence - so that is not a valid excuse as to not letting you see it now. If they were to show you the report (or provide a copy) you may very well leave them alone - so it doesnt make a lot of sense.You could try taking them through small claims court which wont cost you much.Alternatively - seek compensation from the dealer or person who sold you the car if that is an option? (probably not much of an option).Unfortunately motors let go - that's the law of motorsport unfortunately - even the best engine builders have failures from time to time, there are never any 100% success rates in this area. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/22948-somethings-fishy-here/page/4/#findComment-341911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushed6 Member 137 Member For: 19y 8m 21d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 30/01/06 04:38 AM Share Posted 30/01/06 04:38 AM AdamXR6T said: How do you know those mods wouldn't do that?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>how do you know they did that's the fact that ford have to prove, did the mods have anything to do with the damage to the engine ford have to prove they did. and if they can cme up with something that's feasable well you up sh*t's creek.I think you just like an argument Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/22948-somethings-fishy-here/page/4/#findComment-341953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducatijb Lifetime Members 3,448 Member For: 22y 1m 11d Gender: Male Location: sydney Posted 30/01/06 04:50 AM Share Posted 30/01/06 04:50 AM Hypothetically,what chance do Fomoco have if your engineer can prove the block was Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/22948-somethings-fishy-here/page/4/#findComment-341957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvyk Member 1,070 Member For: 20y 2m 13d Location: The North Cooma End of Canberra... Posted 30/01/06 04:54 AM Share Posted 30/01/06 04:54 AM rushed6 said: AdamXR6T said: How do you know those mods wouldn't do that?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>how do you know they did that's the fact that ford have to prove, did the mods have anything to do with the damage to the engine ford have to prove they did. and if they can cme up with something that's feasable well you up sh*t's creek.I think you just like an argument<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Whilst I'm normally the first to say you play you pay, I do think that Ford need to come up with evidence as to why they will refuse a warranty claim rather than doinga blanet blocking... I think xrboss8 deserves at least a basic explaination and the engineers report (as they allegedly have it anyway) rather than the "WE ARE FORD, THEREFORE WE ARE GOD" mentatilty he has been getting...Whilst I beleive Ford should be allowed to not do warranty work should mods have caused the issue I also think that Ford should be forced to back up any decision with hard (writen) evidenceI also don't think arguing in here over the possible damage certain mods may or may not have caused is really answering xrboss8's question has he seemed to be more interested in getting the engineers report to see if Ford really did look into the issue or if they simply put it into the too hard basket..In either he seems to be taking the experince on the chin and not complaining about the car (or the cars strength) at all, which makes me think he also understands the whole you play you pay idea, he just wants answers from Ford...[/Rant] Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/22948-somethings-fishy-here/page/4/#findComment-341959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ms700 Moderating Team 10,170 Member For: 22y 3m 13d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 30/01/06 05:17 AM Share Posted 30/01/06 05:17 AM xrboss8 said: told warranty is void due to APS exhaust fitted which some how bent a rod.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Id like to wind back here a few steps....I installed a APS exhaust in my car, along with a GT airbox, and whenever I gave my car any more than 1/4 throttle, it would overboost, and go into limp home mode.If you had a APS exhaust fitted, along with a SS inductions intake, and no sort of edit or Unichip ECU over riding device, the car would have been overboost city.... no chance of doing any sort of engine damage whatsoever. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/22948-somethings-fishy-here/page/4/#findComment-341971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Here since the start... Lifetime Members 10,282 Member For: 22y 18d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 30/01/06 06:00 AM Share Posted 30/01/06 06:00 AM rushed6 said: AdamXR6T said: How do you know those mods wouldn't do that?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>how do you know they did that's the fact that ford have to prove, did the mods have anything to do with the damage to the engine ford have to prove they did. and if they can cme up with something that's feasable well you up sh*t's creek.I think you just like an argument.I don't know that these mods ruined the engine, I never said they have.By the sound of it as far as Ford is concerned they have that proof, or reasonable doubt would be a better way of putting it that the mods effected the engine causing it to fail.And yes, I like an argument! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/22948-somethings-fishy-here/page/4/#findComment-342004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Here since the start... Lifetime Members 10,282 Member For: 22y 18d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 30/01/06 06:01 AM Share Posted 30/01/06 06:01 AM ms700 said: xrboss8 said: told warranty is void due to APS exhaust fitted which some how bent a rod.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Id like to wind back here a few steps....I installed a APS exhaust in my car, along with a GT airbox, and whenever I gave my car any more than 1/4 throttle, it would overboost, and go into limp home mode.If you had a APS exhaust fitted, along with a SS inductions intake, and no sort of edit or Unichip ECU over riding device, the car would have been overboost city.... no chance of doing any sort of engine damage whatsoever.It also has a PWR cooler Mick, so surely there is some sort of tuning device being used. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/22948-somethings-fishy-here/page/4/#findComment-342006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ms700 Moderating Team 10,170 Member For: 22y 3m 13d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 30/01/06 10:05 AM Share Posted 30/01/06 10:05 AM AdamXR6T said: ms700 said: xrboss8 said: told warranty is void due to APS exhaust fitted which some how bent a rod.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Id like to wind back here a few steps....I installed a APS exhaust in my car, along with a GT airbox, and whenever I gave my car any more than 1/4 throttle, it would overboost, and go into limp home mode.If you had a APS exhaust fitted, along with a SS inductions intake, and no sort of edit or Unichip ECU over riding device, the car would have been overboost city.... no chance of doing any sort of engine damage whatsoever.It also has a PWR cooler Mick, so surely there is some sort of tuning device being used. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>And if id be assuming that the PWR core has less restriction than the factory Garret jobbie, that concrete's my statement a bit further....Something fishy sure is going on here...... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/22948-somethings-fishy-here/page/4/#findComment-342132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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