Toluene

[blueboost]

very interesting Micka, does the toly cause anly corosion to the injectors like methenol does

[Eugene]

From what I understand, and I'm happy to be corrected on this, tolly will make an engine read a little leaner then regular fuel, like ethanol fuel does, and I have been told by a few people up to 20% is safe, any more and atrip on the dyno to check AFR etc would be recomended.

A local concrete pettern/stamping supply mob sell it alot cheaper than the fuel retailers, they use it to clean molds and thin the coatings, most will have it in 20lt drums.

lets see, half a tank of Boost 98, and 10 liters of tolly.

that would give just over 20% total of fuel mix tolly.

I know that Nulon Pro strenght 500m to 35 liter makes about 8 rwkw difference, lest see what the tolly does.

Dyno Day on Sunday could be fun

anyone else keen for a go too.

[thebrunks]

Is that 8 rwkw with a retune or just off the tune you already have loaded???

You don't get much benefit without retuning the car to suit!

Also can you smell any difference in the exhaust fumes???

If you reckon this stuff makes a difference you should try a mix of Fibreglass hardener.

Russ

[Turbofalke]

A bit of information for you.

Toluene occurs naturally as a component of crude oil and is produced in petroleum refining and coke oven operations, toluene is a major aromatic constituent of gasoline.

Chemical: TOLUENE

Which Industries Use This Chemical

Adhesives Manufacture

Carpet adhesive solvents

Electroplating - Cold-cleaning Solvents

Electroplating - Vapor Degreasing Solvents

Laboratory Chemicals Solvents - Dilution

Laboratory Chemicals Solvents - Extraction

Machinery Mfg and Repair Solvents - Machinery Manufacture and Repair

Metal Degreasing Solvents - Metal Degreasing

Paint Manufacture Hydrocarbon Solvents

Paint Stripping Solvents - Paint Stripping

Paper Coating Solvents

Pesticide Mfg (Insecticides) Solvents - Insecticide Manufacture

Pharmaceuticals Mfg Solvents - Pharmaceuticals

Printing Solvents for Flexography

Printing Solvents for Gravure Printing

Rubber Manufacture Solvents - Rubber Manufacture

Wood Stains and Varnishes Varnish Solvents

Kinds of Consumer Products May Contain This Chemical

Adhesive films, all types, incl pressure sensitive

Aerosol paint concentrates

Architectural coatings

Auto, other transportation, and machinery refinish paints incl primers

Automobile body polish and cleaners

Floor polish

Furniture polish and cleaners

General performance sealants (PVAC, butyl, vinyl, etc.)

Gravure inks

Ground/traffic marking coatings

Household hard surface cleaners (aerosol)

Household hard surface cleaners (liquid)

Industrial interior coatings

Industrial particleboard (furniture, fixtures, cabinets, etc.)

Laundry starch preparations

Leather dressings and finishes (excl shoe polish)

Loose mineral wool fiber (blowing and pouring)

Lubricating oils

Misc. use aromatics

Miscellaneous paint-related products

Moisturizing creams

Nail enamels and polishes

Non-wood upholstered office side and arm chairs

Nonstructural caulking compounds and sealants

Other art materials incl clay, water & tempera colors, finger paint, etc.

Other automotive chemicals

Other gravure inks

Other industrial chemical specialty products

Other laundry aids, icluding ironing aids and dry cleaning spotting pre

Other manicuring preparations

Other miscellaneous allied paint products, including brush cleaners

Other specialty cleaning and sanitation products

Packaging inks: solvent types

Packaging inks: solvent types

Paint and varnish removers

Paint thinners

Paints and allied products

Phenolic and phenolic derivative adhesives

Polyvinyl acetate (latex type) adhesives

Publication inks: solvent types

Scatter rugs, bathmats, and sets (rugs 6 x 9 ft and smaller)

Sheet vinyl flooring

Shoe polishes and cleaners

Solvent thinned exterior stains incl shingle and shake

Solvent thinned exterior undercoaters and primers

Solvent thinned interior clear finishes

Solvent thinned interior stains

Solvent thinned interior undercoaters and primers

Specialty performance sealants

Surfactants, finishing agents, and assistants

Synthetic resin and rubber adhesives

Thick line coloring pens and markers

Urethane adhesives

Wall coverings

Waterproofing compounds

Wood office furniture

Wood office secretarial chairs

Wood office work surfaces (modular systems)

You might find this article intersecting to read about what it does as an octaane boost: <span style='color:red'>Link</span> - Toluene

BTW- Toluene has an octane of 114 from what I've read, so if you mix is 20% with Optimax extreme I think you'd get it up to about Octane 103.

[Eugene]

  Turbofalke said:

BTW- Toluene has an octane of 114 from what I've read, so if you mix is 20% with Optimax extreme I think you'd get it up to about Octane 103.

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I was miss informed on the tolly ratio's to octane gian,

With a 10% mix on 98 premium you will gain AROUND 4-4.5 points, should end up about 102-103, depending apon what quality the fuel was in the start.

can anyone tell me if XYLENE is the same as Toluene?

And russ, that was without a tune, just the gain inwhat it had.

[rboksic]

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very interesting Micka, does the toly cause anly corosion to the injectors like methenol does

Water in methenol is a problem in Methenol only cars, not when its mixed into

ULP/Pulp.

If you have finnished racing for the day you either drain thr fuel tank or top it up to capacity to minimise the surface area of the Methenol has .

Rob

who does not what to be in a pit crew.

[groper]

picked up 20L of toluene today from the local chemical supplier for 80 bucks... I think I can get it cheaper I just need to shop around some more, should be down around 50 bucks I think... anyways it should be better than other octane boosters, its 120 ron and its supposed to help spool up earlier as has more heat energy too...im gonna mix it up with BP 98, at 10% toluene and see how she runs its supposed to sweet up to about 25% without any dramas for those hardcore track days etc...

anyone else tried it?

[turtle33]

wear gloves/breathing gear when you play with it, otherwise your nuts will shrivel up and a 2nd head will appear, it really is bad sh*t.

[F663]

Yes it sure is BAD SH**

each 10% will give you 1 ron increase so you will end up with close to 99 ron its more toxic when in contact with your skin

[groper]

nah its not as bad as it was once thought, but yeah, dont go taking a bath in it or put it in your inhaler, its cool... ordinary unleaded is full of it anyways, so just treat it like you would petrol...

Edited 05/06/07 10:23 AM by groper