DallasQLD Lifetime Members 1,197 Member For: 22y 5m 19d Gender: Male Location: Albany Creek QLD Posted 28/12/05 12:26 AM Share Posted 28/12/05 12:26 AM I pose this question - Is the 0 400m time as quoted by mags (and they live for it) outaded as test of the core performance of the car?Does it influence your purchase to the point of exclusion of certain model? If it does then why?I will give you an example. When the T was first released there was great fanfare. Until the Motor guys tested against the SS. Then they found a small margin to the SS in 0-400m time.They then went on to say that mid gear acceleration left the SS totally behind. I know as I tested mine against my Brother in laws SS. It left him for dead.After all not all of us are trying to launch ourselves into jail but drive our cars based upon mid gear perfromance driving around town. So I pose the question. Does the 0-400m time really matter?. If it does why?Please dont hijact this with stuff about drag times etc. Its got nothing to do with race tracks or drag events. I am talking stock road cars here. On the road, not about mods or anything else. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/22194-0-400m-time-for-it-to-go/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Here since the start... Lifetime Members 10,282 Member For: 22y 29d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 28/12/05 12:32 AM Share Posted 28/12/05 12:32 AM Nah Dallas,The times meant nothing to me. I didn't care if a SS was a poofteenth faster. I chose the XR6T over a V8 because you didn't have to ring it's neck to make it feel like you were moving even though the end result might have been a little slower.I think the times are a good indication of performance though. But I wouldn't buy a car just based on those figures. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/22194-0-400m-time-for-it-to-go/#findComment-328399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
F6 UTE - Track Bound EVO III - Member 3,367 Member For: 20y 5m 9d Gender: Male Location: Strapped in and holding on Posted 28/12/05 12:35 AM Share Posted 28/12/05 12:35 AM It's the 'Bloke' mentallity.When most ppl talk drag times, they have no concept of how to interpret the data. Most pl just look at the ET and go WOW, or FK that's slow.IMO, 1/4 times are a waste of time, unless your into it as a sport. It in no way replicates how a car reacts on the roads, day to day.It has some bragging rights at the bbq, and some guys like that. Most ppl I know couldn't give a toss, or are paper racers....Just because an STI or EVO is quicker than an SS doesn't make it a better car overall, just better at doing one thing. I think FPV have gone away from quoting performance figures, not because they are 'afraid' but because they realise the need to build a car for doing more things than driving in a straight line.. ( hello suspension tweaks FoMoCo )I don't think it will ever go away, but the tide is shifting as we, as buyers, expect more from our $$.. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/22194-0-400m-time-for-it-to-go/#findComment-328403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasQLD Lifetime Members 1,197 Member For: 22y 5m 19d Gender: Male Location: Albany Creek QLD Posted 28/12/05 12:39 AM Author Share Posted 28/12/05 12:39 AM keep it up, I want to send this all to the Mags...... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/22194-0-400m-time-for-it-to-go/#findComment-328409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ute Donating Members 195 Member For: 20y 5m 23d Location: Canberra Posted 28/12/05 01:59 AM Share Posted 28/12/05 01:59 AM DallasQLD said: I pose this question - Is the 0 400m time as quoted by mags (and they live for it) outaded as test of the core performance of the car?Does it influence your purchase to the point of exclusion of certain model? If it does then why?I will give you an example. When the T was first released there was great fanfare. Until the Motor guys tested against the SS. Then they found a small margin to the SS in 0-400m time.They then went on to say that mid gear acceleration left the SS totally behind. I know as I tested mine against my Brother in laws SS. It left him for dead.After all not all of us are trying to launch ourselves into jail but drive our cars based upon mid gear perfromance driving around town. So I pose the question. Does the 0-400m time really matter?. If it does why?Please dont hijact this with stuff about drag times etc. Its got nothing to do with race tracks or drag events. I am talking stock road cars here. On the road, not about mods or anything else.You"re f***n kiddin' right?Is it 1984 ? Does BB want to cut words out of that book thing that tells us what words mean ? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/22194-0-400m-time-for-it-to-go/#findComment-328425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvyk Member 1,070 Member For: 20y 2m 24d Location: The North Cooma End of Canberra... Posted 28/12/05 02:18 AM Share Posted 28/12/05 02:18 AM It is one of the many figures that can be used to decide if you buy a car or not, it should not be the one and only figure that is used, nor should it be a figure used to state which car is better as really each person loves doing different things with their cars...Should they continue giving the 0-400m times - I think they should as it is an interesting read, should this be the one and only thing given, never... For starters I'm also interested in the cars abililty to go from 100km/h to 0km/h and the time that takes (Let's face it, there are cases where that time is far more important than the 0-400m times)... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/22194-0-400m-time-for-it-to-go/#findComment-328428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Here since the start... Lifetime Members 10,282 Member For: 22y 29d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 28/12/05 02:22 AM Share Posted 28/12/05 02:22 AM 1ute said: You"re f***n kiddin' right?Is it 1984 ? Does BB want to cut words out of that book thing that tells us what words mean ? Can someone explain this for me? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/22194-0-400m-time-for-it-to-go/#findComment-328431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezy10z Member 211 Member For: 21y 10m 25d Location: Ballarat Posted 28/12/05 02:50 AM Share Posted 28/12/05 02:50 AM I dont think it's outdated and it's a good benchmark to give you an idea of the acceleration of the car. Every car handles different and has good and bad qualities. Outside the car world theres always some sort of unit of measurement such the size of a block of land, speed of a pc, hp, torque, size of a house. It might sound stupid but the reality is we compare the size of a house, and its not always the largest one that will suit your needs but a pentium 3 might suit your needs of surfing the net and checking emails rather than doing the same thing on a Pentium 4 etc. Or live happily in a small house its all the same.Personally I think people take it to personally because they own a certain a car and read the opposition like Expensive Daewoo recorded a faster time in the latest motor mag. We all know how it's not a true representation of the car in the real world but will give you an idea of the power of the car etc. If people say they dont want to get fined for speeding then buy a barina. I think it's fare to say that everyone on this site would have given there T or any other car a squirt when there was no other car around on a country road or put the foot down when they say a car beside them trying to act like Peter Brock . Everyone drives on the freeway or some stretch of road at the speed limit and if need even pass a car. The car can feel more comfortable than a WRX, or an EVO but the owners of that car might think it's perfect for them or like the AWD handling.I doubt Motor or Wheels are going to change anything because theres no need to. If you dont like reading about a 0 - 100 or 0-400m then read the part of the article that analyses the qualities of the car that your interested in.Again the article is like the example in the first paragraph because the reader will enjoy reading about the interior, handling, braking or even the acceleration times it comes down to the individuals choice of what they consider important. I find it hard to believe that 1/4 mile times will dropped because a minority dont think it's a worthwhile benchmark.I'm sure there will be people that will disagree with me and agree as well and this is just my 2 cents worth so I hope no one flames me about.Everyone is entitled to their opinion.Robbie. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/22194-0-400m-time-for-it-to-go/#findComment-328436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ute Donating Members 195 Member For: 20y 5m 23d Location: Canberra Posted 28/12/05 03:06 AM Share Posted 28/12/05 03:06 AM AdamXR6T said: 1ute said: You"re f***n kiddin' right?Is it 1984 ? Does BB want to cut words out of that book thing that tells us what words mean ? Can someone explain this for me? The more facts & stats there are the better.All the better to make an informed decision.Ps: At school we had to read George Orwell It's a book about the dumbing down of society so that those in control can keep control through peoples ignorance and oppression. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/22194-0-400m-time-for-it-to-go/#findComment-328439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xrtwpn Guests Posted 28/12/05 03:12 AM Share Posted 28/12/05 03:12 AM The stupid thing is the 1/4 mile is 404meters they dont even run the cars over the full 1/4 mile Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/22194-0-400m-time-for-it-to-go/#findComment-328440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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