Romulus Donating Members 1,279 Member For: 20y 1m 22d Location: Perth Posted 27/12/05 11:02 AM Share Posted 27/12/05 11:02 AM I agree with what the article said, but it leaves the door open for both Motor and Wheels to do nothing but heap praise on a new car from GM, if it's good enough. Very typical for a magazine to give a car a hard time when it's reaching the end of it's cycle, knowing a new platform is just around the corner.Bloody great to see Ford making such a successful comeback after the AU.Now, if only FPV would release a BF V8 or turboed 6 with 300rkw. That would really sink the boot into Holden/HSV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blonk Iconoclast Donating Members 4,330 Member For: 20y 4m 30d Gender: Male Location: CH Posted 27/12/05 12:04 PM Share Posted 27/12/05 12:04 PM Motor will give the HSV a crown.....They are owned by GMH and fairfax anyway., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nextcar Member 15 Member For: 19y 2m 23d Posted 27/12/05 12:19 PM Share Posted 27/12/05 12:19 PM I agree with what the article said, but it leaves the door open for both Motor and Wheels to do nothing but heap praise on a new car from GM, if it's good enough. Very typical for a magazine to give a car a hard time when it's reaching the end of it's cycle, knowing a new platform is just around the corner.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Spot on. It's all about selling magazines by playing Ford against Holden, and Motor and Wheels have set it up beautifully to bring in the VE next year. They'll have the Holden-loyal readership that fired up now they will sell magazines by the boot-load when the new model is released to great acclaim and hype... unless GM really stuff it up, which I doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypnodoc It's All In Your Mind Gold Donating Members 2,198 Member For: 21y 3m 28d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 27/12/05 12:26 PM Author Share Posted 27/12/05 12:26 PM Motor will give the HSV a crown.....They are owned by GMH and fairfax anyway.,<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ba$tards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBOSS Faster than any BTA,XTC,Autotech, Nizpro and Tunehouse car Member 3,918 Member For: 21y 8m 4d Location: D SHIRE! Posted 27/12/05 12:35 PM Share Posted 27/12/05 12:35 PM Times are as follows for the HSV and the FPV Add Edit and CAI0-100 FPV 6.3 0-100 FPV 5.00-100 R8 5.90-400 FPV 14.3 0-400 FPV 13.5 0-400 R8 13.9The FPV got 4 stars while the HSV got only 3The final comment was?"Theres no doubt the FPV is better . Both cars fairly claim punishing blows, but the decision on points must go to FPV. HSV's Z series is a great engine surrounded by an aging package, so it's no surprise that the FPV feels at least one generation ahead in its handling and refinement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buf-Phoon loitering with intent Lifetime Members 13,318 Member For: 21y 6m 7d Gender: Male Location: Zombie Birdhouse Posted 27/12/05 12:42 PM Share Posted 27/12/05 12:42 PM It seems that while Expensive Daewoo and HSV have been scraping and cost cutting Ford and FPV have been charging ahead.In the Jan Wheels mag there is a comparo between the BF FPV and the HSV R8 Clubsport as well as another between the BF XR8 and the latest Expensive Daewoo SS revamp named the SSZ.Times are as follows for the HSV and the FPV0-100 FPV 6.30-100 R8 5.90-400 FPV 14.30-400 R8 13.9The FPV got 4 stars while the HSV got only 3The final comment was?"Theres no doubt the FPV is better . Both cars fairly claim punishing blows, but the decision on points must go to FPV. HSV's Z series is a great engine surrounded by an aging package, so it's no surprise that the FPV feels at least one generation ahead in its handling and refinement. But how much better would it be if the FPV had an engine like the LS2 mated to its sweet ZF auto, lost some flab and was given a shorter final drive?"The Holdens clear performance advantage will be some consolation to the brands many followers. But the Ford proves that on the road, as well as the bloodied battleground, raw firepower isn't always the deciding factor.Then there is the comparo between the SSZ Commodoare and the BF XR8. The XR8 beats the SSZ in all categories, the times are thus:XR8 0-100 6.3SSZ 0-100 6.8XR8 400m 14.4SSZ 400m 14.8The XR8 gets 4 stars and the SSZ (although Expensive Daewoo have loaded it with everything for free bar the kitchen sink) gets 3 stars. Perhaps the best quote to the comparo was this;IT'S THE XR8 THAT STANDS DEMONSTRATABLY AHEAD FOR ALL-ROUND POLISH AND REFINEMENT.Fancy that! The XR8 runs away from the SS and is nearly as quick as the GT I think HSV and Expensive Daewoo are going to find themslves up siht creek without a paddle, and considering GMs global and un-repayable technical bankruptcy. It's fair to wonder how long it will be before Elizabeth becomes a robot assembly plant for imported Daewoo tear down packs Oh goodnes the cost of resting on your laurels and convincing a relatively ignorant buying public that you can make an exclusive and unbeatable performance car.Me I'm laughing my head off, only ever owned one HSV and to me it will always mean Horrible Sh!t VehicleWell done Ford and FPV: Keep rubbing it in Well Done Ford and FPV<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sorry Doc ..... FPV what , Phoon, GT ...what ???Edit... sorry must read title first .... mmm yessum GT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ2CME Formerly XR6NA Member 3,512 Member For: 19y 2m 27d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 27/12/05 12:54 PM Share Posted 27/12/05 12:54 PM Seems that the GT has gotten slower but great to see that ford are doing so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBOSS Faster than any BTA,XTC,Autotech, Nizpro and Tunehouse car Member 3,918 Member For: 21y 8m 4d Location: D SHIRE! Posted 27/12/05 10:27 PM Share Posted 27/12/05 10:27 PM Seems that the GT has gotten slower but great to see that ford are doing so well.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>You have to remember that the MKII GT ran a 13.9 which was a manual and the Auto ran a 14.4 and the BF GT is also an auto and ran a 14.3 so its actually quicker and just remember this is the same magazine that ran a 14.8 for the XR6T I think you'll find motor mag will run this car in the 13's CYA JEFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostn Donating Members 116 Member For: 20y 4m 22d Gender: Male Posted 27/12/05 10:56 PM Share Posted 27/12/05 10:56 PM (edited) Times are as follows for the HSV and the FPV Add Edit and CAI Someone forgetting cat back exhaust0-100 FPV 6.3 0-100 FPV 5.00-100 R8 5.90-400 FPV 14.3 0-400 FPV 13.5 0-400 R8 13.9The FPV got 4 stars while the HSV got only 3The final comment was?"Theres no doubt the FPV is better . Both cars fairly claim punishing blows, but the decision on points must go to FPV. HSV's Z series is a great engine surrounded by an aging package, so it's no surprise that the FPV feels at least one generation ahead in its handling and refinement. Give the Darkside and edit,zorst n CAI... I finks our FPV's gettin maulin... I cracked a 13.6 once in GT-P never again Stupid Generic EDIT Bring on custom tune Edited 27/12/05 11:00 PM by Boostn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPV TRANNY Im the one and only Donating Members 3,557 Member For: 20y 1m 19d Gender: Male Location: In my house Posted 27/12/05 11:36 PM Share Posted 27/12/05 11:36 PM I too have seen many SV8,SS,HSV Clubbies running the same mods as Dboss and running low to mid 12 sec passes. The LS1 V8 is still the V8 king as mods go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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