Bmw M5 Verus Fpv F6

[dal_dhillon]

Lets have a look on paper....

BMW M5

Power 373kW @ 7750rpm

Torque 520Nm @ 6100rpm-6100rpm

Acceleration 0-100Km/h 4.7 secs

Kerb Weight 1755kg

FPV F6

Power 270kW @ 5250rpm

Torque 550Nm @ 2000rpm-4250rpm

Acceleration 0-100Km/h 4.9 secs

Kerb Weight 1815kg

Cant see $200,000 difference here....

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I wonder why the M5 is so slow 0-100Km/h with that power to weight

but anyway at the end of the day I dont belive that there would be too many people around who would be comparing the F6 vs M5 as two options to purchase???? I mean, one is for people who work hard for there money and want a nice car to show for it and the others buy a BMW because they have more money than they know what to do with

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I still don't understand why u get 2 warraty for a M5?????

and u pay 250k????

[DaveO]

Lets have a look on paper....

BMW M5

Power 373kW @ 7750rpm

Torque 520Nm @ 6100rpm-6100rpm

Acceleration 0-100Km/h 4.7 secs

Kerb Weight 1755kg

FPV F6

Power 270kW @ 5250rpm

Torque 550Nm @ 2000rpm-4250rpm

Acceleration 0-100Km/h 4.9 secs

Kerb Weight 1815kg

Cant see $200,000 difference here....

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I wonder why the M5 is so slow 0-100Km/h with that power to weight

but anyway at the end of the day I dont belive that there would be too many people around who would be comparing the F6 vs M5 as two options to purchase???? I mean, one is for people who work hard for there money and want a nice car to show for it and the others buy a BMW because they have more money than they know what to do with

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I still don't understand why u get 2 warraty for a M5?????

and u pay 250k????

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

For the reason that they can't guarentee the drivelines life after a certain number of "hard" sport mode launches. I saw a new M5 the other day in that gunmetal colour... boy is it a boring car. Would really take a trainspotter or BMW enthusiast to pick up the difference between it and a normal 5 series. F6's are actually a nice refreshing car in the 2 area's that I live. It's just dominated by BMW's, Audi's and Merc's most in very boring and unoriginal euro luxo silver. Extremely stereotypical. The M5 does not stand out as being a 250k car and blend's with all the other new BM's in the area which are as common as flies in the country! If you want a unique car around where I live buy an F6, as I have not seen one to date in the area... By the way how the hell did a stock F6 get 0-100 in 4.9 seconds??? Am I reading that right?

Dave

[DallasQLD]

I wan't to thank the members who have now changed my opinoin on the M5. I didnt now they were boring and were bad value. At the first opportuniity I am going to get out of the M5 and get into a Typhoon.

Thanks guys.

[Falchoon]

I think some of you people that are comparing the M5 to F6 are focusing too much on the power and speed aspect and not looking at the car as a package. There was a similar debate (XRT vs F6) when the Typhoon was first released. Sure you can get your XRT modded to hose a F6 in a straight line but the F6 has other features that make it the car it is. Same to an even greater extent with M5. Just enjoy whatever car you choose to spend your money on.

[MYF6]

Rohan

I have had an F6 for a little over a year and going through the initial clutch problems made ownership a little like a rollercoaster ride. Having had the clutch fixed the big issues I have with the car are driveline shunt and fly-by-wire throtle calibration. When you add both together you can end up with serious driveline noise and a slap back and forth between the gearbox and tires.

Many have said the new BF auto is a great car and I have no doubt it is, and being an auto there is far less chance of it developing driveline shunt. Al least I hope so for all the new owners sake...

I purchased the F6 as I needed a 4 door car capable of seating 5 people and when you look around, for the money, there are very few that fit that bill with the style and power. The F6 is a grand tourer, its not a race car, and that means its a very comfortable car for any length of trip. In standard form they are a very capable car and a rewarding one on a nice piece of road. In modded form they can be just as smooth a drive with subtantially more power, and resulting fun.

Not going to get into silly M5 v F6 debate. Different horses for very diffferent courses.

Good luck in making your choice Rohan.

[ZAP]

I agree that the comparison between the F6 and the M5 is not fair. They are different types of cars for different types of buyers. BUT...I did look at both cars and did not see the price justification with the M5.

That being said I think the F6 is the best sub $100k 4 door performance sedan on the Oz market.

Dallas, I would not upgrade a E39 for the E60 M5 as I think the E39 is a far better car overall. If the E39 was new, it would have knocked the F6 out and I would have ordered the E39 M5.

[hypnodoc]

I wan't to thank the members who have now changed my opinoin on the M5. I didnt now they were boring and were bad value. At the first opportuniity I am going to get out of the M5 and get into a Typhoon.

Thanks guys.

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Ahhhhhh, I knew you'd see the light Dallas.

Mate actually I agree with you 100%, the fords are a rough bit of gear, I found the auto F6 more thumpy in the bum than the Man, everything is as plastic as can be, paint finish is still inconsistant and horrid, the 6 speed manual rattles horribly and most FPV/Ford dealers don't know the meaning of service or how to actually fix anything beyond a flat tyre or do a simple component replacement But hey this is Australia (she'll be right mate) so what could you expect. I think the best thing about the cars, especially the F6 is that you can get rediculous performance out of them for very little money . You can smash any HSV ever built and you can actually end up with a reasonable performance car if you spend another 15k odd on a typhoon But they are never going to be an m5 or catch one on a long and twisty drive, but you still end up with 170k change from the BMs price. NOW THAT WOULD MAKE A NICE DEPOSIT ON A BUGATTI VEYRON

Then its just game set and match.

The GTs,F6,s and Ts might be fast cars but they do have a lot of faults and still will have when they are are on their third model run. However compared to the other crudely made over enthuastic from the Dark Side the Ts and FPVs are magic IMHO and I'll keep buying them just to make sure that HSV miss out on the sale

[JBomb3000]

Lets have a look on paper....

BMW M5

Power 373kW @ 7750rpm

Torque 520Nm @ 6100rpm-6100rpm

Acceleration 0-100Km/h 4.7 secs

Kerb Weight 1755kg

FPV F6

Power 270kW @ 5250rpm

Torque 550Nm @ 2000rpm-4250rpm

Acceleration 0-100Km/h 4.9 secs

Kerb Weight 1815kg

Cant see $200,000 difference here....

Where excatly did you get those figures from?

A stock F6 0 - 100Km/h 4.9 sec.

I dont think so.

The M5 is also closer to 4.4 than 4.7. for the 0 - 100

While the whole thing is fairley pointless as several people have pointed out not many people will cross shop a F6 with a M5. No doubt the F6 is better value and if you spent X amount of dollars you could beat one etc etc. but it's horses for courses an F6 modded to 500rwkw or stock is still an F6, a M5 will always be a BMW. There is more to the total ownership experience than straight line performance.

[stang]

This is where I throw my 2 cents in.

At the end of the day, these cars are going to be driven on the street.

200k more to buy a BMW no way.My wifes Bosses wife summed it up when she said I won`t let my husband drive a ford it has to be a BMW, and they are in debt,what a wank.his current bmw 3 years old, I think it `s the 320c it`s the six anyway) cost him over $100.000 when I got my T.

He came out with the line his was quicker,quick jump on the net showed him to be more than half of a slower.

never bought that up again.

Sorry Dallas when it comes to BMW it`s more about status.Sure they make nice cars.But If I was going to spend that type of money would be the V12 2 door Mercs.

Alot of people will tell you the BMW has always been the poor mans Merc.They depreciate quicker for that reason.

But Dallas at the end of the day you made your choice and so long as your happy with it, that's all that matters.

One other thing as for brake shudder, I finally got it after 35000k`s. But to be fair as most people know everytime a new model comes out the bugs generally get ironed out a few models afterl. Damm should have waited for the BF with the six speed auto. But then again I love my T.

[Adam]

See guys...

All your posts have been moved into this thread.

It does take a bit of time to cut and paste these things together.

Thankyou for your patience,

Adam.