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  DallasQLD said:
The photo is an M5 that has been off the road....its a very safe car. Zap - I am glad you feel the F6 is better value. Its not hard setting it up for a serious launch. And BTW you don't have to let it cool down unless you have done 25 lauches in a row. 

BTW an M5 driver isn't really interested in the traffic light derby. To this day I have never dragged anyone from the lights. I am just not interested. If I wanted to do that, I would buy something else.  If the issue is cost then your better off with the Falcon. The tyres are the price they are because they are good and offer a grip level very close to a competition tyre. 

Cheers

Dallas

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l tend to agree with everything Dallas has said. Comparing an F6 with an M5 :laughing: So what if its faster in a straight line, seems to be increasingly the reason given around here for buying a particular car and asserting its superiority. l would like some quality with mine please. If Ford/FPV can get that right then l am back in, until then l will look elsewhere. l would love to buy Aussie made cars but will not if it means second class quality and service.

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  DallasQLD said:
For those who thing you can just spend some money on the F6 and "hose" an M5 - your'e living in fantasy land.

Us or you!

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Buy the F6  and aspire to own an M5. clear.

Bit up yourself and not everybody aspire's to own a M5 far from it.

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  DallasQLD said:
The F6 is a formitable car. Its by far the best Ford offering at the moment. Its a natural choice for a great perfomance sedan.To compare it to a new M5 I think is a bit pojtless and I will tell you why.

The cars are designed for 2 different markets. The performance of the M5 is in a different league alltogether. Its at the top end of the Euro luxury list and the Ford is close to the top end of the performance stable from Ford.  The guy looking at an F6 isnt shoppping for an M5 as an alternative. If he selects either one then hae has made a huge decsion. not a simple comparison. They are so diifferent on price that the deciosn to buy eirther is massive.

The ownership expreience with the 2 cars is completely different. We can all get on the bandwagon and say its a better car for a quarter of the price. that's the easy way out. But it soemply isn't.  Yuo will not know the difference until you own one.

One is going to cost you 1K a month for a lease and the other one 4k per month. That puts the ownership thing into total perspective. As far as the dirving of them goes there is no real contest. One is going to be almost all tax deductable for business and one isn't.

If you drove one over a 50 k stretch of winding road and the other one , the BMW will be there several munies before - and the F6 is a fast car!

The performance envoelope is good on the F6 and it represents great value but its isn't in the same league as trhe M5 and that's the real difference.

Yes you can get 400 RWKW out an F6.  But it still wont catch the BMW. The power isn't the issue. You can get 400 RWKW out of a 1985 skyline for 20K as well and its a third of the price of an F6, so does that make it  better again?. I have attached a photo of an M5 that crashed at 215KPH. Please note both occupants lived and theres your 180K differnece.

I have an M5. I have had an XR6T. Both are rated as my favourite cars. I recently 3 days in the new M5. Its at least 20% better than my car is and my M5 is minutes faster than any T or FPV car or HSV over any roads. dotn assume for 1 minute that th epwer is the issue - its the total package that make for a fast car. not just the engine. 

They are both great cars and the F6 IMO is better than the GT but each has its place in the market.

For those who thing you can just spend some money on the F6 and "hose" an M5 - your'e living in fantasy land.

Buy the F6  and aspire to own an M5. Once you have an M5 it will all come very clear.

Cheers

Dallas

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I have a relative with one,and yes a vey nice car but to say a modded T or F6 wouldnt come near it is crap.

Mine gives it plenty of sh*t around the twisty stuff and if I spent 10K on suspension mods,I would totally crap on it harder. :laughing::fool:

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I agree with Mondie and the other Dal. If you have had to spend 10k on your suspension then that's fine. Hope its better. So you have an F6 that will "crap on it" well it might be an intersting challenge....!

What tyres do you have on tihs road burner?

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  vik351 said:
  DallasQLD said:
The photo is an M5 that has been off the road....its a very safe car. Zap - I am glad you feel the F6 is better value. Its not hard setting it up for a serious launch. And BTW you don't have to let it cool down unless you have done 25 lauches in a row. 

BTW an M5 driver isn't really interested in the traffic light derby. To this day I have never dragged anyone from the lights. I am just not interested. If I wanted to do that, I would buy something else.  If the issue is cost then your better off with the Falcon. The tyres are the price they are because they are good and offer a grip level very close to a competition tyre. 

Cheers

Dallas

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  DallasQLD said:
For those who thing you can just spend some money on the F6 and "hose" an M5 - your'e living in fantasy land.

Us or you!

Buy the F6  and aspire to own an M5. clear.

Bit up yourself and not everybody aspire's to own a M5 far from it

Cheers

Dallas

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Is Dallas hanging around here playing with himself again.....

Somebody bring a hose........

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Lets have a look on paper....

BMW M5

Power 373kW @ 7750rpm

Torque 520Nm @ 6100rpm-6100rpm

Acceleration 0-100Km/h 4.7 secs

Kerb Weight 1755kg

FPV F6

Power 270kW @ 5250rpm

Torque 550Nm @ 2000rpm-4250rpm

Acceleration 0-100Km/h 4.9 secs

Kerb Weight 1815kg

Cant see $200,000 difference here....

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  Blonk said:
Lets have a look on paper....

BMW M5

Power 373kW @ 7750rpm

Torque 520Nm @ 6100rpm-6100rpm

Acceleration 0-100Km/h 4.7 secs

Kerb Weight 1755kg

FPV F6

Power 270kW @ 5250rpm

Torque 550Nm @ 2000rpm-4250rpm

Acceleration 0-100Km/h 4.9 secs

Kerb Weight 1815kg

Cant see $200,000 difference here....

I wonder why the M5 is so slow 0-100Km/h with that power to weight :idunno:

but anyway at the end of the day I dont belive that there would be too many people around who would be comparing the F6 vs M5 as two options to purchase???? I mean, one is for people who work hard for there money and want a nice car to show for it and the others buy a BMW because they have more money than they know what to do with :idunno:

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