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I can kinda see why somone would mod an XT or somthing like that to look like somthing better. Overlooking the fact that with the money they spent plus the orignial purchase thay could have bought a N/A XR6 in the first place.

I just think people need to appreciate the turbos for what they are, and that is a dam great car in their own right. I don't see the need to try and make them into somthing there not.

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I can kinda see why somone would mod an XT or somthing like that to look like somthing better. Overlooking the fact that with the money they spent plus the orignial purchase thay could have bought a N/A XR6 in the first place.

I just think people need to appreciate the turbos for what they are, and that is a dam great car in their own right. I don't see the need to try and make them into somthing there not.

You're overlooking some basics here though.

If there is an aftermarket (or alternative model) component which aids in improving the performance or reliability, then it becomes a wiser decision to do so.

Heat is a big problem with modified "T's".

Having enough cool air for radiator, larger intercooler, pwr steering cooler and trans cooler, not to mention an engine oil cooler too (for track work) becomes a real issue with the standard XR front clip.

I havn't made any direct measurements, but it appears visually that the GT/F6 front clips have a larger lower grille opening.

If my front clip ever needs replacing, I'll certainly be looking for an alternative means of improving the availability of cool air flow to aid my modded T.

I should add....

Any functional mod is OK in my book....

It's the show pony "look at me" add ons which have NO functional purpose which are a bit of a turn off.

Bit like that colour, Phantom.... :stirthepot:

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I can kinda see why somone would mod an XT or somthing like that to look like somthing better. Overlooking the fact that with the money they spent plus the orignial purchase thay could have bought a N/A XR6 in the first place.

I just think people need to appreciate the turbos for what they are, and that is a dam great car in their own right. I don't see the need to try and make them into somthing there not.

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You're overlooking some basics here though.

If there is an aftermarket (or alternative model) component which aids in improving the performance or reliability, then it becomes a wiser decision to do so.

Heat is a big problem with modified "T's".

Having enough cool air for radiator, larger intercooler, pwr steering cooler and trans cooler, not to mention an engine oil cooler too (for track work) becomes a real issue with the standard XR front clip.

I havn't made any direct measurements, but it appears visually that the GT/F6 front clips have a larger lower grille opening.

If my front clip ever needs replacing, I'll certainly be looking for an alternative means of improving the availability of cool air flow to aid my modded T.

I should add....

Any functional mod is OK in my book....

It's the show pony "look at me" add ons which have NO functional purpose which are a bit of a turn off.

Bit like that colour, Phantom.... :tease:

tom

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I agree with all that, especially the bit about phantom. :tease:

Geea, :gooff:

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I can kinda see why somone would mod an XT or somthing like that to look like somthing better. Overlooking the fact that with the money they spent plus the orignial purchase thay could have bought a N/A XR6 in the first place.

I just think people need to appreciate the turbos for what they are, and that is a dam great car in their own right. I don't see the need to try and make them into somthing there not.

You're overlooking some basics here though.

If there is an aftermarket (or alternative model) component which aids in improving the performance or reliability, then it becomes a wiser decision to do so.

Heat is a big problem with modified "T's".

Having enough cool air for radiator, larger intercooler, pwr steering cooler and trans cooler, not to mention an engine oil cooler too (for track work) becomes a real issue with the standard XR front clip.

I havn't made any direct measurements, but it appears visually that the GT/F6 front clips have a larger lower grille opening.

If my front clip ever needs replacing, I'll certainly be looking for an alternative means of improving the availability of cool air flow to aid my modded T.

I should add....

Any functional mod is OK in my book....

It's the show pony "look at me" add ons which have NO functional purpose which are a bit of a turn off.

Bit like that colour, Phantom.... :tease:

tom

Your spot on in what you say Tom about making cosmetic modifications for performance/relability reasons.

What I was refering to was cosmetic modifications for the sake of it. If you've got a stock T with a F6 front bar, spoiler and GT stripes. Its still a stock T when it's all said and done it wont go any better, and the money you've spent has done very little if anything to improve re sale.

Each to their own but can't see the point IMO.

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I never thought of calling them 'tranny's' but that is f*ckin so funny...

Will be using that from now on :censored::spoton::blush:

Just to add to the thread though... my previous car was a real HSV 5.7l Senator and the amount of people who referred to their cars as Clubsports or Senators when they clearly were not used to give me the :fool: ...

I want a carbon bonnet and the only one I have been able to find so far is an XR8 one... so does that make me a tranny if I get one of those?

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I want a carbon bonnet and the only one I have been able to find so far is an XR8 one... so does that make me a tranny if I get one of those?

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No but add a F6/GT bar on it then your Goooooooonnee :censored:

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Ok, Ok... I will do my best not to become a tranny Jeff... :censored::blush:

Jack :spoton:

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Ok, Ok... I will do my best not to become a tranny Jeff...  :censored:  :blush:

Jack  :spoton:

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Jack you've already got a tuff looking T :msm: why stuff it up and make it look like something it isn't :fool:

CYA JEFF :blush:

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Ok, Ok... I will do my best not to become a tranny Jeff...  :censored:  :blush:

Jack  :spoton:

Jack you've already got a tuff looking T :msm: why stuff it up and make it look like something it isn't :fool:

CYA JEFF :blush:

I agree... $1350 can be spent in sooooo many other ways.....

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It sounds sad now that I say it out loud (on the forum... which is silent :fool: )... but the black carbon bonnet, against the (TEAM) phantom paint and the black wheels I reckon would look very different and also brilliant...

Or am I so close to being a tranny I need to step away from my car for a minute or two? :censored::spoton::blush:

Jack :blush:

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