turbomuz Member 209 Member For: 19y 6m 12d Location: Canberra Posted 12/12/05 12:47 AM Share Posted 12/12/05 12:47 AM If ever there was a time to round up all the bludgers and trouble makers and put them into a national service program, it is now. Those that won't conform, can be taught to conform.Just need to give them the right incentive!As bad as national service was viewed, due to the loss of life in a war we should never have been involved with, it did serve one hell of a purpose in changing boys into men. tom<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sorry to disappoint you Tom but the Defence Force can't help you there. Years of media sensationalism and public scorn have turned the ADF into a haven for soft, lazy, candy arsed whingers. If your view of the life in the Forces comes from watching Full Metal Jacket then you will be disappointed.In any case, the ADF should not be a baby sitting correctional facility for the dregs of society. We have better things to do than look after obnoxious little pricks.Muz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guests Posted 12/12/05 12:56 AM Share Posted 12/12/05 12:56 AM (edited) If ever there was a time to round up all the bludgers and trouble makers and put them into a national service program, it is now. Those that won't conform, can be taught to conform.Just need to give them the right incentive!As bad as national service was viewed, due to the loss of life in a war we should never have been involved with, it did serve one hell of a purpose in changing boys into men. tom<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sorry to disappoint you Tom but the Defence Force can't help you there. Years of media sensationalism and public scorn have turned the ADF into a haven for soft, lazy, candy arsed whingers. If your view of the life in the Forces comes from watching Full Metal Jacket then you will be disappointed.In any case, the ADF should not be a baby sitting correctional facility for the dregs of society. We have better things to do than look after obnoxious little pricks.Muz<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Turbomuz,Army, Navy or Airforce?Regards,Darren Edited 12/12/05 12:57 AM by DARREN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 7m Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 12/12/05 01:31 AM Share Posted 12/12/05 01:31 AM If it is found the real cause of the problem is "new" Australians wanting to instill their beliefs onto the rest of us, then there has to be a clear directive to all communities that that mentality will NOT be tolerated in our society!tom<{POST_SNAPBACK}>And then you have the case of the Qld School Headmaster who had to apologise to prevent a case from going to the anti-discrimination commission because she used the word “Christmas” too many times in the school newsletter. One muslim family took offence as they don’t celebrate what is typical Australian culture (regardless of the religious links). At least the premier made a point of getting onto any radio station he could to offer his full support to the headmaster and even made the point of wishing everyone a Merry Christmas I was in some way appalled by the images shown on the news last night, but then I wouldn’t imagine it would have been any more appalling then if the media scrum had been present for the bashing of the life guards and sensationalised that on film as well.I think this has been a long time coming, albeit a bit over the top, but I’m glad it has happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAP No boost, no bottle, just my foot on the throttle! Lifetime Members 7,935 Member For: 20y 9m 11d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 12/12/05 01:56 AM Share Posted 12/12/05 01:56 AM The problem is that the MINORITY always seems to be the vocal group, getting into the media and politicians. They think that this must be the way people think because we hear/see it all the time.What we have seen at Cronulla is a majority of people who were sick of seeing the minority getting their say all the time.The unfortunate thing is there were a minority of right wing Neo-Nazi people there inciting the drunk crowd and causing a riot.I just hope that people understand that this is not a one off incident and that this happens everyday only on a more minor scale.The "Ethinc" minorities seem to weild the power in our community because us normal aussies just sit back and whinge about it, but do not get off our asses and do anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvyk Member 1,070 Member For: 19y 8m 24d Location: The North Cooma End of Canberra... Posted 12/12/05 02:38 AM Share Posted 12/12/05 02:38 AM And then you have the case of the Qld School Headmaster who had to apologise to prevent a case from going to the anti-discrimination commission because she used the word “Christmas” too many times in the school newsletter. One muslim family took offence as they don’t celebrate what is typical Australian culture (regardless of the religious links). <{POST_SNAPBACK}>[rant]I take offense at that family taking offence, in fact I will personally take offense if they participate in any muslim holiday because they are in effect trying to prevent us taking part in our Christian holiday... The other thing is they are complaining about us having christmas decs at shopping centres saying it's offensive, well in that case I find it highly offensive that they are allowed to have displays talking about their own holidays...I personally believe if your a politically correct w*nker (I think that's the politically correct words for them) you deserve to be shot on sight, because if your that worried about how I say something as to not offend anyone you really are not a valuable member of societyPS a. I'm not normally like this and believe that everyone should be allowed to live their own life and follow any religion of choice, as long as they do not take this right away from others....b. I'm not normally a "christmassy type person" but I hated last year that we had to virtually side step around it in case we offended any one...[/rant] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbomuz Member 209 Member For: 19y 6m 12d Location: Canberra Posted 12/12/05 02:41 AM Share Posted 12/12/05 02:41 AM Sorry to disappoint you Tom but the Defence Force can't help you there. Years of media sensationalism and public scorn have turned the ADF into a haven for soft, lazy, candy arsed whingers. If your view of the life in the Forces comes from watching Full Metal Jacket then you will be disappointed.In any case, the ADF should not be a baby sitting correctional facility for the dregs of society. We have better things to do than look after obnoxious little pricks.Muz<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Turbomuz,Army, Navy or Airforce?Regards,Darren<{POST_SNAPBACK}>The Senior Service mate - Navy.Muz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvyk Member 1,070 Member For: 19y 8m 24d Location: The North Cooma End of Canberra... Posted 12/12/05 02:45 AM Share Posted 12/12/05 02:45 AM The problem is that the MINORITY always seems to be the vocal group, getting into the media and politicians. They think that this must be the way people think because we hear/see it all the time.What we have seen at Cronulla is a majority of people who were sick of seeing the minority getting their say all the time.The unfortunate thing is there were a minority of right wing Neo-Nazi people there inciting the drunk crowd and causing a riot.I just hope that people understand that this is not a one off incident and that this happens everyday only on a more minor scale.The "Ethinc" minorities seem to weild the power in our community because us normal aussies just sit back and whinge about it, but do not get off our asses and do anything about it.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think the media is to blame... When was the last time you saw a really good well balanced view on the lebanese (apart from ABC or SBS who really don't give a about ratings anyway)...The problem is that the d*ckheads are the ones that make it on to the news as ultimately that makes the media money... Does the media care that it is effectivly turning us against a minority group??? Not whilst it's making money...I think that if you participate in this so call "war" that you are given an automatic jail sentance, if you are found to be an active member of a gang you are given an automatic jail sentance. No first offence, no "well you had a bad childhood", get these people off the streets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRSEX EVO 9 SUPPORTER Member 556 Member For: 21y 7m 28d Location: NO CAPA EDIT REQUIRED HERE! Posted 12/12/05 03:33 AM Share Posted 12/12/05 03:33 AM The problem is that the MINORITY always seems to be the vocal group, getting into the media and politicians. They think that this must be the way people think because we hear/see it all the time.What we have seen at Cronulla is a majority of people who were sick of seeing the minority getting their say all the time.The unfortunate thing is there were a minority of right wing Neo-Nazi people there inciting the drunk crowd and causing a riot.I just hope that people understand that this is not a one off incident and that this happens everyday only on a more minor scale.The "Ethinc" minorities seem to weild the power in our community because us normal aussies just sit back and whinge about it, but do not get off our asses and do anything about it.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think the media is to blame... When was the last time you saw a really good well balanced view on the lebanese (apart from ABC or SBS who really don't give a about ratings anyway)...The problem is that the d*ckheads are the ones that make it on to the news as ultimately that makes the media money... Does the media care that it is effectivly turning us against a minority group??? Not whilst it's making money...I think that if you participate in this so call "war" that you are given an automatic jail sentance, if you are found to be an active member of a gang you are given an automatic jail sentance. No first offence, no "well you had a bad childhood", get these people off the streets...<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Very interesting!...Its funny how the Australians always have to pick a certain minority ethnic group to blame. 30 years ago it was the Italians...20 years ago it was the Greeks...and 10 years ago it was the Vietnamese which everyone called Chinese,Asian,Japanese etc...and now its the Lebanese...I wonder who is next.....By the way any ARAB from any country such as Syria, Iraq, Iran, Dubai, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Kuwait etc...is not classified as Lebanese. They are the true Middle Eastern people. Lebanon unlike any other ARAB country has no DESERT. It is made of mountainous terrain with snow all year around and some of the best beaches in that side of the world. Their second language use to be French but now is English. The lebanese even have a different accent and slang compared to any other ARAB country. With the Lebanese there are good and bad. its a shame that 90% of them are great and hard working people with big business's. For F*#k sake even ITA BUTROSE is Lebanese. Not to mention Mortgage House is owned by Lebanese. The guy of Aussie Home loans is as well. You would be suprised how many Lebanese are around you. Its a shame with all this happening.Let me tell you all one thing. At the moment there are over 300,000 Lebanese just in Sydney's metropolitan area. Now out of those people the so-called trouble makers only happened to get 40-60 people or maybe even a 100 to go fight with them. So that should tell you that lebanese are not affected by this crap and that everyone should sort out the issue once and for all and get on with their lives. if its going to take 100 people to wreck a country's reputation. SO BE IT!.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumpen Poison Fish. Poison Fish. TASTY FISH!!! Donating Members 5,181 Member For: 21y 8m 10d Gender: Male Location: The Bogan Shire Posted 12/12/05 03:43 AM Share Posted 12/12/05 03:43 AM The govenor of New South Wales, Marie Bashir, is lebanese...So is Steve Bracks...but from what I've read we should send that bas*ard back!Lumpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBOSS Faster than any BTA,XTC,Autotech, Nizpro and Tunehouse car Member 3,918 Member For: 21y 5m 3d Location: D SHIRE! Posted 12/12/05 04:10 AM Share Posted 12/12/05 04:10 AM Muslim's all around the world do nothing but cause trouble and its no different in AustIts a shame that it come to what it did yesterday but there's only so much intimidation that we should have to stand for and it would be UN-AUSTRALIAN not to stand up for a way of lifeGot to say also that the Police have let it get to this point it has also by letting these rat bags get away with blue murder,there was an article a couple of months back where a group of guys down at the rocks were insulting the police calling them cops and using racial comments towards them on a current affair and they simply started there car and drove away WTF message does that send out to these people Enough said I hope the trouble makers are serverly dealt with and its over asap and I feel for the descent people who have been caught up in it allCYA JEFF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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