Pcm Replaced

[bugster70]

Well, I'm certainly no Edit expert, but I wouldn't be surprised if what you're saying is correct. I've not only heard similar stories from other people who own Edit, I've even been told by a tuner that this can be the case!!

Bit of a worry really, makes you wonder what elements of the map aren't being uploaded correctly sometimes. But rather than rely on my (mis?)information, it may be best to get this answer direct from CAPA themselves. Then again, they have a vested interest in saying that this isn't the case, don't they?!

I know, for example, when I was driving back from the Snowies on Sunday, my a/c wouldn't switch on. The a/c would light up on my ICC display but there wasn't any clicking in of the compressor pump, no cool air, etc. After I stopped the car and restarted it (but I didn't reflash it) the a/c started working again!!

[LightningXR6T]

Really makes you wonder, doesn't it!

[Guest FatBAt]

  LightningXR6T said:

Maybe these flashers "in some cases" are damaging the PCM's.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'm with you on that one Lightning. It is a fair comment to make that in SOME cases there IS a problem with the upload due to errors BEYOND the control of the owner. Not EVERYONE is stuffing up their upload.

Ford have spent more money on the development of this car alone, than most of these aftermarket companies are actually worth and yet we still choose to upload over the OEM code.

Like I said in another post. It is only code written to an EPROM. It is most vulnerable when it is being moved or written. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot and really needs to get a grip on what an edit actually is cause it isn't a little black box. It's 1's and 0's. Billions of 'em!

Albeit, I choose to run it and I do so at my own risk.

Ohhhhhh get ready for it.....

Cheers

[BlueXR6Turbo]

  NT TURBO said:

How did you/they know your pcm needed replacing? sorry if it was covered elsewhere

My car was getting no or very little boost. Even when put back to standard. Was originally diagnosed as the wastegate solenoid, but they replaced that and it didn't fix the problem. Next thing on the checklist was the PCM.

[dingah2]

All very interesting but I reminded of the adage that 99.9% of all 'computer errors' occur somewhere between the keyboard and the CPU.

Dingah

[LightningXR6T]

  dingah2 said:

All very interesting but I reminded of the adage that 99.9% of all 'computer errors' occur somewhere between the keyboard and the CPU.

Dingah

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This maybe true, but we are not using a keyboard! No I'm not trying to be a smart arse, but the proceedure of flashing the PCM is that simple, I no I got it right. I also understand that there possibly are some people out there that should not touch a $1000 computer let alone a $40k plus motor car!

I'm seriously considering not using the flash tuner again only because, what if it has damaged the PCM, what if it happens again. So far no one with any authority (no malice intended) can confirm or denie.

I've left 2 messages for CAPA to ring me back which have failed. So they appear not to be to committal!

[dingah2]

Could all of this be a cunning strategy by Ford to attribute a large bunch of issues to PCMs being 'damaged' by Edit - and remember I have been on the receiving end of an 'Edit cleansed PCM'?

It's nigh on impossible for the customer to prove either way whether the faults are PCM-related, and if it puts the wind up those out there who are considering the ifs and buts of Edit and they manage to put them off modifying their PCM it's another win to Ford.

I'd go so far as to postulate that Ford might not even have to replace the PCMs with 'new' items as you and I would be none the wiser as to whether we had an original, second hand or new PCM fitted.

Dingah

[Goobz]

  LightningXR6T said:

Thanx, bugster70

Another question:

Is it possible that upon rewriting, that some data is not written every time?

I ask this because a couple of times I have loaded it, and noiticed that performance feels different. I've reloaded it again and it seems to perform better!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I loaded the same tune 3 time and got three quite different results...

I have seen this on other cars to...

Its not as perfect as everyone makes it out to be...

Having said that its still probably the best out there at the moment, and is therefor getting the results. I am very happy with my edit. But something better will come along.

Chris

[LightningXR6T]

This may start a bum fight, but are things like XEDE or Unichip possibly a "safer" option.

Were I work we supply and fit many Safari "APS" D'tronics. These are a plug in piggyback unichip for late model diesel 4WD's. They appear to be extremely consistant.

Maybe the old methods have more merrit than the new!

[LightningXR6T]

It would also be nice if CAPA could return 1 of my 5 calls I've made! Appears that they maybe be hiding something!