jetute Donating Members 4,553 Member For: 20y 11m 25d Gender: Male Location: brisbane Posted 07/11/05 11:17 AM Share Posted 07/11/05 11:17 AM ive got my wog tune... would love to go for a drive in an extreme f6 tune one day.... maybe rapid f6 will take me for a spin one day??hint hint!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Donating Members 1,279 Member For: 20y 23d Location: Perth Posted 07/11/05 11:23 AM Share Posted 07/11/05 11:23 AM Seriously, why spend $800 - $1000 on a tuning box, another $200 to $???? on custom tuning, and then add an adjustable boost controller?Technically, once the tune is set for a boost level and AFR's are adjusted for the desired boost level, altering the boost level from that point will cause the mixtures to become leaner or richer.The SCT software does fuel mapping from TPS counts, not MAP. Therefore, increasing boost from the original tune will lean the mixture, reducing it will richen it up.Isn't the point of having 3 slots to run 3 different tunes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F6 UTE - Track Bound EVO III - Member 3,367 Member For: 20y 1m 11d Gender: Male Location: Strapped in and holding on Posted 07/11/05 11:25 AM Author Share Posted 07/11/05 11:25 AM good to hear some honesty!what other benefits and disadvantages ben?you still got the dynosheet?post it!!!<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Other benefits.... Oh, your tunes don't have the 'dicky clicky solanoid', but your tunes have a 'dicky 2000 rpm glitchy'. get your updated software happening, or get Extreme to tell u what your doing wrong!! Disadvantages- Hell, I dunno what slot to run around in every day!!!!!!!!!!!! Pair of Bastids, both of u....... Yes to the graph.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 4m 3d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 07/11/05 11:26 AM Share Posted 07/11/05 11:26 AM (edited) Seriously, why spend $800 - $1000 on a tuning box, another $200 to $???? on custom tuning, and then add an adjustable boost controller?Technically, once the tune is set for a boost level and AFR's are adjusted for the desired boost level, altering the boost level from that point will cause the mixtures to become leaner or richer.The SCT software does fuel mapping from TPS counts, not MAP. Therefore, increasing boost from the original tune will lean the mixture, reducing it will richen it up.Isn't the point of having 3 slots to run 3 different tunes?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>who said anything about increaseing the boost beyond the level that the afr's are set to in the custom tune...? im talking about dropping the boost down to get traction off the line then bringing it back up to the max level the tune is set for...can u set the sct software to run lower boost based on time or engine rpm then increase it to the preset max level?EDIT: APOLOGIES... this thread isnt about debating adjustable boost controllers vs three preset maps...if anybody wants to discuss this we should start a new thread....my bad... Edited 07/11/05 11:28 AM by Lucus1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Donating Members 1,279 Member For: 20y 23d Location: Perth Posted 07/11/05 11:28 AM Share Posted 07/11/05 11:28 AM (edited) Seriously, why spend $800 - $1000 on a tuning box, another $200 to $???? on custom tuning, and then add an adjustable boost controller?Technically, once the tune is set for a boost level and AFR's are adjusted for the desired boost level, altering the boost level from that point will cause the mixtures to become leaner or richer.The SCT software does fuel mapping from TPS counts, not MAP. Therefore, increasing boost from the original tune will lean the mixture, reducing it will richen it up.Isn't the point of having 3 slots to run 3 different tunes?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>who said anything about increaseing the boost beyond the level that the afr's are set to in the custom tune...? im talking about dropping the boost down to get traction off the line then bringing it back up to the max level the tune is set for...can u set the sct software to run lower boost based on time or engine rpm then increase it to the preset max level?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Not from the method you suggested, however there are other ways to control torque outputs and throttle control that are gear dependant.All this can be done via the SCT software. Launch control and torque capping relative to rpm and gearing has been around for years with the LS1 tuning software. Edited 07/11/05 11:32 AM by M6 XR6T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F6 UTE - Track Bound EVO III - Member 3,367 Member For: 20y 1m 11d Gender: Male Location: Strapped in and holding on Posted 07/11/05 11:31 AM Author Share Posted 07/11/05 11:31 AM Seriously, why spend $800 - $1000 on a tuning box, another $200 to $???? on custom tuning, and then add an adjustable boost controller?Technically, once the tune is set for a boost level and AFR's are adjusted for the desired boost level, altering the boost level from that point will cause the mixtures to become leaner or richer.The SCT software does fuel mapping from TPS counts, not MAP. Therefore, increasing boost from the original tune will lean the mixture, reducing it will richen it up.Isn't the point of having 3 slots to run 3 different tunes?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Jason. As I mentioned, power delivery on the two different tunes come on so differently it's not funny. This I like, 3 slots are a good idea. Maybe I wanted to run a 95 RON tune because I don't think the 98 over here is any good?? Then I'd slip to the drags, fill up with 98 or Octane booster and drag away?? Yes, raising the boost will in fact screw around with afr's. Wog wanted the controller on the dyno to adjust afr's whilst he could, not to slap on after. I would at the very least run an EBC so I could switch it off to run the Extreme tune, and have no dramas or, I'd slip over to Simons, and get him to fiddle with new found boost control aswell..F6 map doesn't have the same control as XR6T map, ask Barry Batten, he had issues with Gregs' ( F6 map ) aswell, hence why he ran an XR6T map to get better results.. Everyone has issues with it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Donating Members 1,279 Member For: 20y 23d Location: Perth Posted 07/11/05 11:35 AM Share Posted 07/11/05 11:35 AM Seriously, why spend $800 - $1000 on a tuning box, another $200 to $???? on custom tuning, and then add an adjustable boost controller?Technically, once the tune is set for a boost level and AFR's are adjusted for the desired boost level, altering the boost level from that point will cause the mixtures to become leaner or richer.The SCT software does fuel mapping from TPS counts, not MAP. Therefore, increasing boost from the original tune will lean the mixture, reducing it will richen it up.Isn't the point of having 3 slots to run 3 different tunes?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>F6 map doesn't have the same control as XR6T map, ask Barry Batten, he had issues with Gregs' ( F6 map ) aswell, hence why he ran an XR6T map to get better results.. Everyone has issues with it..<{POST_SNAPBACK}>True, but Barry didn't have revision J of the software when he worked on Greg's ute a couple of weeks ago. It's available now...I have it.Maybe Barry can have another go at no cost to Greg if that's what they want to organise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 4m 3d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 07/11/05 11:36 AM Share Posted 07/11/05 11:36 AM Seriously, why spend $800 - $1000 on a tuning box, another $200 to $???? on custom tuning, and then add an adjustable boost controller?Technically, once the tune is set for a boost level and AFR's are adjusted for the desired boost level, altering the boost level from that point will cause the mixtures to become leaner or richer.The SCT software does fuel mapping from TPS counts, not MAP. Therefore, increasing boost from the original tune will lean the mixture, reducing it will richen it up.Isn't the point of having 3 slots to run 3 different tunes?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>who said anything about increaseing the boost beyond the level that the afr's are set to in the custom tune...? im talking about dropping the boost down to get traction off the line then bringing it back up to the max level the tune is set for...can u set the sct software to run lower boost based on time or engine rpm then increase it to the preset max level?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Not from the method you suggested, however there are other ways to control torque outputs and throttle control that are gear dependant.All this can be done via the SCT software. Launch control and torque capping relative to rpm and gearing has been around for years with the LS1 tuning software.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>what other ways? can u elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romulus Donating Members 1,279 Member For: 20y 23d Location: Perth Posted 07/11/05 11:36 AM Share Posted 07/11/05 11:36 AM Might be time to start a Q and A about the SCT software and it's capabilities and/or limitations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guests Posted 07/11/05 11:37 AM Share Posted 07/11/05 11:37 AM Seriously, why spend $800 - $1000 on a tuning box, another $200 to $???? on custom tuning, and then add an adjustable boost controller?Technically, once the tune is set for a boost level and AFR's are adjusted for the desired boost level, altering the boost level from that point will cause the mixtures to become leaner or richer.The SCT software does fuel mapping from TPS counts, not MAP. Therefore, increasing boost from the original tune will lean the mixture, reducing it will richen it up.Isn't the point of having 3 slots to run 3 different tunes?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>who said anything about increaseing the boost beyond the level that the afr's are set to in the custom tune...? im talking about dropping the boost down to get traction off the line then bringing it back up to the max level the tune is set for...can u set the sct software to run lower boost based on time or engine rpm then increase it to the preset max level?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'll check and let you know <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yes to rpm but time huh?you can have different max torque for every gear to a save the box or get traction!!! lowering boost will ritchen mixtures to the point of possibly fouling platinum/iridium plugs reasonably easy giving you a (what everyone else calls a lifter pumpup due to valve spring issue) miss at idle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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