Aps Exhaust + Tuned Edit

[wippdaddy]

Well I have had my computer checked and reflashed by ford for a fault and they never found out that I had the edit. It seems to be an ongoing debate if ford can actually detect if a cpu has been edited... the reason I bought the bloody thing is because I thought it could not be detected...

[Eugene]

there will be large gains over a stock system with the APS fitted, I got just on 40rwkw with it over the stock, but the big difference is the extra torque and repsonse of the engine, it spools up so much faster than with the stock one.

Simon is 100% correct on the injectrs though, you will still run out of fuel at the same power level (maybe a little higher), but the valve springs are happier with less back pressure, it looks great and sounds horn at full boost WOT.

it will also be a great platform for later mods if you want.

I am sure it wont disapoint.

[xxr64t]

  wippdaddy said:

Thanks for your input guys. I agree that a IC + injectors would be better value for money. Don't think ford would cover me if they saw a huge intercooler and aftermarket injectors, though you can only ask I guess. I just can't afford any hike in insurance plus I need my warranty if the car blows up. The APS exhaust is a nice piece of gear however, and pretty good value if consider the quality of it. Pretty sure I read in the APS thread that they will be selling it seperately now. Perhaps I would be better of with just a custom tune for now... as soon as there is someone in darwin who can do it.... Anyway back to the drawing board.

I have a massive cooler literly hanging out of my car and they didnt even care about the cooler. They said its no major power increase compared to an edit or unichip. Exhaust is okki. Injectors I dont know. I donno if its city ford or all round policy.

[wippdaddy]

Yeah I'm not sure what my dealer would say about an intercoler, have to ask him I guess. Was thinking that they may not even notice aftermarket injectors if they look similar to the factory ones? But they very easily could as well. How do the cars run in stock tune when the injectors have been changed I wonder?

[bugster70]

  wippdaddy said:

How do the cars run in stock tune when the injectors have been changed I wonder?

By all accounts not very well at all mate, but I'm no APS expert (just recalling previous posts on this ). Even if the dealer doesn't pick up on the larger injectors right away, they'll certainly pick up on the horror idle and will try to fix it/wonder what's wrong, etc.

[wippdaddy]

I thought that may be case bugs, thaks for the input fellas, keep it coming.

[baboon]

Hey wippdaddy you in darwin? If you are, you are one of the first I've heard of having an edited XR6T up here. Does your car go hard up here in this weather?

[FPV TRANNY]

  dingah2 said:

Have been running APS Phase II at around 280RWKW and then was edited yesterday.  After the epic pantomime of a completely dead car resulting in it being towed to the dealer to have original software re-loaded the car is now Edit with Unichip together.  Edit software is pretty average in terms of its code and useability and Unichip provides much higher resolution for more stable and finer tuning.  In all honesty right now I cannot see or feel any real difference in performance between Phase II and Edit - sure you can fiddle with line pressures etc but I already have the gearbox modded.  If you are after a stealth tune with no other mods on your car then I can appreciate that Edit provides the cheapest and quickest way to go but there are some horror stories out there too - pick your tuner very carefully and ensure a careful custom tune takes place as well.  In terms of torque, power, AFRs etc I've seen nothing that Glen hasn't already achieved with APS Phase II.  Will now experiment, time permitting wiith Dynowog, with keeping the Unichip with the Edit - just need to sort out how the boost is matched up throughout the range.  With the intake, injectors and exhaust issues clearly well sorted with APS Phase II, so far there are no issues with fuel supply, or valve springs and nor should there be.

Having seen the Edit software I am very impressed with Nick's efforts, ability and patience with what he is producing; as for the Edit vs Unichip - an overdone argument stirred by a few and grossly overdone many many who either don't understand or haven't had either done properly.  End-user numbers of power are not even half the story it's more about how much power and when - ie the shape of the curves and not necesarily where they end up.  Have certainly seen the car much happier than first thought possible with less rich AFRs though.

Dingah   

So unichip can work with the edit.

So can I still have 2 different boost maps?

Might have to try it too.

[dingah2]

Sadly no, not with Unichip.

Now that mine has been sorted the chip actually comes off on Friday as I can see no real benefit in persisting.

Having witnessed an XR6T being tuned in less than an hour with Edit, springs injectors but standard exhaust to over 300RWKW other than the looks and sound I started to wonder about the wisdom of investing heavily in the exhaust.

Interesting stuff this Edit!

Dingah

[wippdaddy]

Yeah I'm in Darwin Baboon. You can feel the effects of heat soak on really hot days but the car still goes hard nontheless, I have to talk to the dealer about a bigger intercooler though cause it would make a huge difference up here. I haven't been running the edit lately cause I have to send it back to CAPA to get re programmed as it will not allow mw to use cruise control in 5th gear. Apparently there is someone getting trained to do custom tunes up here, also I am looking at getting some people together so someone copuld come up here for a dyno day, otherwise I will be driving to perth or adelaide to get a custom tune when I am on holidays. I am getting my centre muffler removed next week and getting my AWC typhoon bar installed the week after that. After weighing it all up I decided to just remove the centre muffler for better tone plus its cheap, only $100. in the future if I'm looking for big gains I will go for a complete turbo back exhaust but for now the stock one is fine. I take it you have a T Baboon. Looking at getting an edit by any chance?