New Audio Install

[envi240]

I just got my new audio install and can`t be happier,

after playing around for along time, I found that the BA system was hard to get good sound out of. no matter how much you spend on amps and subs you will not get the same sound out of the BA as you would out of a system with RCA outputs.

I have found a prduct that comers very close... within 90% of my old system.

in my skyline I was running 2 x12inch 300wrms subs and a 600wrms amp

I got 137db out of it which I was happy with.

I am now running a pioneer D class amp and 2 x 12inch pioneer 350wrms subs in custom pioneer boxes.

which should be around the 145DB mark with a good setup and a good head unit!!!

I went to jaycar and payed $17.95 for a line level converter which did the job but had very little control over tuning the amp and subs.

I did some work on it and the best result I got was 121db in my XR6 turbo.

which hurt like a hole in the ehad after the money I spent on the new setup.

I was sure it was because of the rca output for the LLC.

so I spent yet more money on a product made by stinger which does the same thing.( converts rear speaker wire into RCA output)

this LLc cost me around $110 but you now have much more control over the tune.

I tuned the system last night and I am now running 142Db which is a 21db increase

so as you can see it is all down to the tune you are using.

the Falcons are good because the are sound proofed and you do not have to run brown bread over much of the boot or doors.

I will get you some photos of the install after work tonight but I am very happy with the results and I can recomend the stinger LLC as great bang for buck in audio.

so ppl that are running subs in there Turbos but are only running a cheap LLC and are not 100% happy with there sound try the stinger unit and you should see around 15db increase without a final tweak.

any questions just ask

Regards

Chris

[XtRmn8]

Mate do you standard or premium factory sound sytem?

Where did you get the remote for the amps from?

By taking the signal for the LLC from the rear speakers, did you have to drop them? No rear speakers now?

Sounds like a good setup mate and as long as you are happy with it, that's all that matters!

[F6 UTE]

By taking the signal for the LLC from the rear speakers, did you have to drop them? No rear speakers now?

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He's running 142db from a couple of 12's in the back. My guess is he's running a decent front stage with maybe, just maybe a rear fill from the front speaker inputs with gains turned way down on an amp?? If not anything in the back at all, coz u aint going to hear much from back there when he's got the doof doofing..

[XR06T]

sweet, this is just the thing I am looking for..

is there a website I can look at some specs etc?

what shop did you get it from??

[envi240]

no I am running rear speakers with the same set up.

so my rear speaker wire run into 2 stinger LLC.

1 for rear speaker amp.

1 for rear subs

I got the remote wire from the power sorce in the front dash.

just splice the remote wire into the possitive wire(blue) and run it down the left side of the body.

just undo the scuff guard and push the power wire and the remote wire into a gap between the body and the floor trim.

you can use the factory wire from the rear speaker as running new wire to that would be a pain in the A$$ and not worth the little gain you would get.

I mount my LLC in the top right hand side of the boot(where the sat nav would be mounted.) look close it is there.

the best thing about that is there is a little flap there so you can access the controls with a small flat head screwdriver to play around with your high and low pass.

the biggest thing I have learnt with this is that tunning is everything...

I got the best result with 1 sub facing the back seats and the other facing the boot.

but then I also got more rattles.

so I lost 2db and turned my sub facing sideways and I only got 140db but it is much cleaner bass and still rattles but alot less.

now because your RCA outputs are now right below your factory sub your rca leads will be far to long and you canot cut them down the I fed them through the right hand side of the boot(near the jack) and fixed them under the spare wheel. make sure you dont leave them loose under the carpet because again rattles are very annoying to find and these will rattle on the wood subtray.

if you are getting 2 subs get 2 single boxes and then you can face them sideways and they will fit in the big square hole ontop of the spare wheel.

I was very lucky because mine fit perfect so I did not have to tie them down.

if yours do not fit tie them down because every bump you go over they will move around which can then cost you big money in replacing or reparing them(common sence)

my next step will be to power up the front speakers with some boston pro and a clarion amp.

then dig t.v in my I.C.C with xbox- linked to 2 headrest mounted lcd screens.

if anyone has any questions just ask...

Regards

Chris

[xlr8ed]

Envi, Im not sure how you measure your DB,s but you will get no where near 145 DB,s on Term-Lab...

sounds like a great system otherwise and should be a great SQ car...

Our 2 XR6 T,s has taken in almost 10 trophies so far for best custom install, SQ and SPL...

we have fastest BA section we should have a National loudest BA section for fun...

keep up the good work mate..

jeff

[envi240]

one of the guys from create-a-car audio db `ed it for me. and ran me this morning to tell me so I will check it tonight...

what kind of numbers have your cars been running??

[IH8TOADS]

Good stuff envi!! I use an alpine LLC and that's seems OK but has no adjustments. Im using an alpine digital amp and now that nang3 fiddled with it it is sounding alot better and im now getting the low 20hz sounds.

You mentioned a rear speaker amp and one for the subs. I think I lost you on this one, can you give me a run down on this?? I just used both rear speakers for a single LLC.

Cheers.

[xlr8ed]

one of the guys from create-a-car audio db `ed it for me. and ran me this morning to tell me so I will check it tonight...

what kind of numbers have your cars been running??

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Our lowest car hits 140 DB with a single 12" inch sub and our best hits 147 DB with a single 12" sub...

jeff

[envi240]

with the rear speakers I used a double connection that makes the 2 LLC wires go into the 1 speaker wire.

so my speaker wire is running 2 amps.

one high pass one low pass.