The Drug Base

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He admitted to taking it “yesterday” as his prescription medication had gone missing, you have suspected that this guy has been on an illicit drug induced high all along for no other reason than hyperactivity.

I respect your opinion on drug use and I totally agree with it as well, it just sh!ts me to tears when disadvantaged people have these dispersions casted over them due only to baseless and unfounded propaganda.

Hypothetically speaking how would you feel if you found out that your entire workplace was discussing behind your back that your are a pot head just because you may be forgetful?

[mickq]

Base is a pure(not mixed with as much crap) form of speed much better

CYA JEFF

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sounds like "ice" ... ice is basically pure un-f*cked with speed. VERY addictive.

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Ice is actually less pure than normal speed. Its been chemically altered in a very simple process - the exact same way crack cocaine is made from cocaine.

Takes stuff all time to do it and you can do it in your kitchen with no special anything needed. A little speed makes a lot of ice, which is why ice is so cheap.

It is the only drug that is known to be instantly physically addictive. It causes an irreversable chemical change in the brain the very first time you use it.

Not a good drug at all.

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Hmmm,

I think you got it the worng way around. One cannot take a quantity of every day speed, or base for that matter and turn it into ICE.

Comparing ICE and Crack Cocaine (or free based) in terms of manufacture can't be done as the two groups are totally seperate. YES they are both central nervous system stimulants, but the similarities end their.

ICE cannot be made in a kitchen, and it cannot be done in a series of simple steps...the industrial organosolvents used, MSM for example, and others would kill you if inhaled and not wearing the propper PPE.

that's why, unlike previously mentioned, ICE is very EXPENSIVE, the latest stats and figures that I see from Canberra put ICE as the most expensive illicit substance to purchase by the gram.

Street for 1gm of ICE = approx $450-500

compared to

High grade cocaine (82% and above) = approx $350-450.

The only reason ICE isn't the largest illicit problem we face is because of it's expense, however, go to NEW ZEALAND and you'll see it running rampant though all socioeconomic classes, it's a major problem over their, more commonly known as 'P'.

Instantly physically addictive?

Can be made in you kitchen?

Less pure?

So Cheap?

Please, if such comments are posted, even if you think your right, check, double check and for the hell of it, check again.

A lot of people out their go out, with the advice of their friends, wrongfully take something, thinking its something else, and end up having me standing over them with other MICA paramedics, about ready to adminster a 200kj shock of electricity into them.

A topic like this needs to be 100% accurate, otherwise wayward comments are just as dangerous as the substances themselves.

Darren

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Mate perhaps you have been a little to "into" ice, but you seriously dont know what you are talking about.

Ice is a hydrochloride salt of d-methamphetamine. Its easy as pie to make. If you dont understand the chemistry behind it (and its obvious you dont) then go ask any first year chem student and I have no doubt they could explain how to convert amphetamine to d-methamphetamine hydrochloride in two simple steps.

You will need a jar, some filter paper, a couple of liquids found at any hardware store, and a fridge.

All very complex as you can see.

And to give you real world independent proof, here is a quote from Hawai'I about ice labs. Oh, and Im sure you dont realise it, but Hawai'I is where Ice first appeared in the US, so they kind of have a wee bit of experience in the substance...

"Super labs mass-produce methamphetamine, usually churning out hundreds of pounds a month while conversion labs are intended to convert powder methamphetamine into a smokable, crystal form. Conversion labs are easier to conceal, build and move than are production labs. These labs can be set up in a closet, a bathroom, the trunk of a car or a cardboard box."

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/...7/ln/ln02p.html

Im sure you dont know this either, but speed production is the tricky part. Its actually very easy, but all methods use some interesting chemicals, which due to a combination of toxicity and flamability make life in a meth lab rather exciting. And the majority of makers use no gas masks or similar. The solvents are bad but not THAT bad.

But you wouldnt know that either, would you?

As I said, the method of making ice is the same as is used to make crack. Crack is also exceedingly easy to make once you have the cocaine. Its the base that's the complex bit to manufacture. Although you can make speed in 2 jars, a pot and a couple of bits of filter paper. But no, let me guess, you need a supercomputer and a Level 4 biohazard lab right?

Get real.

Making a slight change to its structure that makes crack and ice is about as easy as chemistry gets.

Its even easier than making GBH. But no doubt you dont know much about that one either.

[turb06]

He admitted to taking it “yesterday” as his prescription medication had gone missing, you have suspected that this guy has been on an illicit drug induced high all along for no other reason than hyperactivity.

I respect your opinion on drug use and I totally agree with it as well, it just sh!ts me to tears when disadvantaged people have these dispersions casted over them due only to baseless and unfounded propaganda. 

Hypothetically speaking how would you feel if you found out that your entire workplace was discussing behind your back that your are a pot head just because you may be forgetful?

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He could also be using the ADD as an excuse to make his speed using all that more acceptable, he might be feeding falchoon a crock of sh*t altogether. I dont see how taking speed is any better if you have ADD and using it as a substitute medication, or you are just a junkie. Now there will be doubt in co-workers minds as to whether he is hopped up on junk or just a symptom of his condition, assuming it is real. I understand where your coming from Tab, but you can be dissadvantaged and a bad person at the same time.

Dazza.

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There's certainly alot of druggies in here

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He admitted to taking it “yesterday” as his prescription medication had gone missing, you have suspected that this guy has been on an illicit drug induced high all along for no other reason than hyperactivity.

I respect your opinion on drug use and I totally agree with it as well, it just sh!ts me to tears when disadvantaged people have these dispersions casted over them due only to baseless and unfounded propaganda. 

Hypothetically speaking how would you feel if you found out that your entire workplace was discussing behind your back that your are a pot head just because you may be forgetful?

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He could also be using the ADD as an excuse to make his speed using all that more acceptable, he might be feeding falchoon a crock of sh*t altogether. I dont see how taking speed is any better if you have ADD and using it as a substitute medication, or you are just a junkie. Now there will be doubt in co-workers minds as to whether he is hopped up on junk or just a symptom of his condition, assuming it is real. I understand where your coming from Tab, but you can be dissadvantaged and a bad person at the same time.

Dazza.

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Time to define

ADD - Attention Deficit Disorder

ADHD - Attention Deficit HYPERACTIVE Disorder

ASD - Autistic Spectrum Disorder (apsperger comes under this one)

prescribed drugs such as Ritalin and Dexamphetamine have entirely the opposite affect on these sufferers. these drugs simply put back what is not there and help them focus better and "normalise" so to speak.

Taking speed or E's does not have the same affect as it would on the "normal" person.

Marijuana generally produces a very calm state their bodies and minds are not used to- the same as nicotine. Especially those who are medically Hyperactive resulting in the body being constantly agitated.

Fairly easy to spot a medically Hyperactive or Asperger person, there muscles are well defined - not always from exercise but from the constant movement.

I have many many years of REAL life experience of this!!

Live with it then get back to me

shazzy

[Falchoon]

Well, I don't have to worry about Speedy anymore, he got the on Wednesday. He was warned numerous times about his punctuality but he kept turning up to work late so the boss gave him his marching orders.

[DBOSS]

I have Zero time for (illegal) recreational drug users. That is just my opinion, I am not trying to force it on anyone, just stating it.

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Dry your eyes Princess