Power The 'nice guy' Donating Members 314 Member For: 19y 10m 9d Gender: Male Location: Sydney (Area around Ryde) Posted 10/10/05 04:32 AM Share Posted 10/10/05 04:32 AM Few posts on this in the mods forum.BP & Caltex/Ampol/Bogas do the E10 fuels - but in QLD and some country NSW. Shell don't make them.So it must be independents & small Company/Franchise retailers.Haven't heard a single station name in Syndey. Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2fardown Member 526 Member For: 19y 9m Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 10/10/05 05:26 AM Share Posted 10/10/05 05:26 AM http://www.unitedpetroleum.com.au/location...vid=2&state=NSW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power The 'nice guy' Donating Members 314 Member For: 19y 10m 9d Gender: Male Location: Sydney (Area around Ryde) Posted 10/10/05 05:50 AM Author Share Posted 10/10/05 05:50 AM http://www.unitedpetroleum.com.au/location...vid=2&state=NSWThanks!Boost 98.I rang Peter Rogers the sales guy for NSW/ACTRolling out in Sydney as we speak.3 sites have it: Roselands, Berkshire Park, St Marys.(ACT also just beggining rollout but still have Suttons & Fyshwick on line and some other suburb that sounded like Michelangelo.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinT Donating Members 372 Member For: 20y 11d Posted 02/03/06 11:58 AM Share Posted 02/03/06 11:58 AM Sorry for digging up an old thread but I found this interesting info on the Mazda site regarding ethanol.What can happen when Ethanol is used in non-suitable vehicles There is an increased possibility for the metal fuel tanks and lines to corrode or rust. There is an increased possibility for plastic fuel tanks to swell and break down. There is a possibility for plastic and rubber fuel lines to deteriorate. There is a possibility for fuel injector o-rings to break down. Carburettor floats and seals are susceptible to deterioration. Certain engine components may not be compatible. Engine management mapping parameters may not be entirely compatible with E10, thereby creating idle and driveability concerns, starting concerns and hot weather performance issues. Points to note Ethanol is an oxygenated fuel. E10 (which is oxygenated gasoline) may reduce fuel economy by an average of 2 - 3% because oxygenates contain less energy than non-oxygenated petrol. As such, there may be fewer kilometres per tank of fuel when using E10. Ethanol has a high affinity for water. Therefore, ingress of water could result in ethanol blends of petrol to break down into separate water/ethanol and petrol layers. This could create driveability concerns as there is the possibility of water/ethanol slugs reaching the engine. In some older vehicles, deposits in fuel systems can be loosened by E10 which may cause fuel filters to become blocked. Coarse ethanol, which is of poor quality (like ordinary fuels of poor quality), may cause poor idle, drivability concerns and starting issues, even if the vehicle is suitable to operate on E10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flukey Seriously Flukey Member Donating Members 4,354 Member For: 20y 10m 22d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 02/03/06 12:21 PM Share Posted 02/03/06 12:21 PM Ethanol is an oxygenated fuel. E10 (which is oxygenated gasoline) may reduce fuel economy by an average of 2 - 3% because oxygenates contain less energy than non-oxygenated petrol. As such, there may be fewer kilometres per tank of fuel when using E10. I have used the United 98 ethanol blend.I got the least amount of k's I ever have from a tank It was ping city as well My T hated it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloan Member 379 Member For: 21y 7m 5d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne. Posted 02/03/06 01:26 PM Share Posted 02/03/06 01:26 PM Ethanol is an oxygenated fuel. E10 (which is oxygenated gasoline) may reduce fuel economy by an average of 2 - 3% because oxygenates contain less energy than non-oxygenated petrol. As such, there may be fewer kilometres per tank of fuel when using E10. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have used the United 98 ethanol blend.I got the least amount of k's I ever have from a tank It was ping city as well My T hated it,<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have used the United 98 with the exact opposite results you had!I constanstanly get 25-35 K's better out of a tank and what's more I seem to get better performance. Go figure?My T loves it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrturb god bless my kids Member 611 Member For: 20y 9m 18d Gender: Male Location: claremont meadows, sydney Posted 03/03/06 06:45 AM Share Posted 03/03/06 06:45 AM I use boost from st marys and my T loves it ..no more ping for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapt Donating Members 317 Member For: 21y 3m 29d Location: gippsland Posted 03/03/06 07:43 AM Share Posted 03/03/06 07:43 AM my T loves the BOOST98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawsy Wanabe mechanical engineer Donating Members 960 Member For: 20y 4m 26d Gender: Male Location: At the computer, obviously..... Posted 03/03/06 07:49 AM Share Posted 03/03/06 07:49 AM Ethanol is an oxygenated fuel. E10 (which is oxygenated gasoline) may reduce fuel economy by an average of 2 - 3% because oxygenates contain less energy than non-oxygenated petrol. As such, there may be fewer kilometres per tank of fuel when using E10. I have used the United 98 ethanol blend.I got the least amount of k's I ever have from a tank It was ping city as well My T hated it,I reckon you payed for normal 95 petrol or, *gasp*... 91.Oxygenated fuel actually contains more available energy than non oxygenated fuel, as far as I'm aware... This is why (assuming you didn't get ripped off and had normal petrol pumped into your tank) a vast majority of engines running this stuff will be able to produce more power, but use less fuel, and have a slightly cooler burn...Also, regarding fuel ratings. It has just occured to me that fuel companies measure the fuels octane rating based on its chemical make up... Now this is all well and good if you truely are measuring the percentage of octane (octane being an 8 carbon atom strain which make up the fuel) in the fuel itself, but our system is actually really mixed up because its a rating system based on how resistant a fuel is to combustion, rather than have anything to do with the actual make up of the fuel itself. This is a good/smart rating system, while at the same time being completely stupid... Heres why.This system is more practical, as giving people a rating system, rather than an octane percantage, is more real world applicable. This is mainly due to the fact that the percentage of actual octain molecules in the fuel isn't in direct proportion to the fuels resistance to spontaineous combustion (it is very close though). This is due to other chemicals and blends of other hydrocarbons in the fuel itself. This system is rather stupid because fuel companies base there rating systems on a calculated/estimated value based on the fuels chemical make up...Hopefully you're starting to see why this is stupid... Fuels blended differently, but have a calculated octane rating of 98, may infact differ in there actual real world resistance to spontaneous combustion. What is my point? Fuels which contain alcohol that have a calculated rating of 98 infact have a real world resistance to combustion similar to a fuel that has a rating of 100.... So fuels mixed with alcohol will, in almost all cases, perform like fuel of a higher grade...Even with all the anti corosives to dull this mix a little, it does nothing but dilute the fuel down slightly and possibly even help the rating even more...This oxygenated/alcohol mixed fuel is also denser (as far as I'm aware, I'll have to check this though), so its my belief that if the exact same volume of elcohol mixed fuel is put into a cylinder with an exact, known quantity of air, then you will achieve a more explosive outcome than if you did the same thing with non mixed fuels, all volumes being the same... I could be wrong on this last bit though and it could be another reason rather than density/oxygen content related.... I also wanted to post something, regardless of what it was or not, because I'm bored and waiting to go out.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flukey Seriously Flukey Member Donating Members 4,354 Member For: 20y 10m 22d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 03/03/06 10:01 AM Share Posted 03/03/06 10:01 AM Ethanol is an oxygenated fuel. E10 (which is oxygenated gasoline) may reduce fuel economy by an average of 2 - 3% because oxygenates contain less energy than non-oxygenated petrol. As such, there may be fewer kilometres per tank of fuel when using E10. I have used the United 98 ethanol blend.I got the least amount of k's I ever have from a tank It was ping city as well My T hated it,I reckon you payed for normal 95 petrol or, *gasp*... 91. Do you have an abridged version of the rest of your post. I've had a long week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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