turb06 Dark Knight Mafia Member No. - 666 Member 3,667 Member For: 21y 9m 27d Location: Toowoomba Posted 10/10/05 12:04 PM Share Posted 10/10/05 12:04 PM Trouble is that is the rules. Not up to the driver/s to work it amongt themselves to wear them or not wearr them. CAMS should have investigated this better and its really their fault and the teams for letting them do it. I can tell you its not a good feeling when you are on the receiving end in a coronial enquiry being grilled by the judge when he says "why didnt you as the organizer of the event enforce the rules?" that's what would happen to the clerk of course should Ambrose been cooked in a fire in the car. OK it dint happen, but I have been the guy in the court taking the flak for the system and that's when you wish that the driver had obeyed the rule book... and your team of official had been doing their job rather than walking around trying to get autographs....<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I dont doubt that they shouldnt have been penalised, as you said rules are rules and I agree, but I am sure there is more to it than what the TV telecast was able to portray, but I feel we are on the same lines on the situation anyway.Dazza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr6t~> Member 104 Member For: 20y 8m 7d Posted 10/10/05 12:17 PM Share Posted 10/10/05 12:17 PM attempted murder!!! how close was ambrose from going over the edge? now that would've been messed up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobrav8 Member 1,969 Member For: 19y 8m 29d Gender: Male Location: New Zealand Posted 10/10/05 09:03 PM Share Posted 10/10/05 09:03 PM Being 5 seconds back (when in safety car formation), and a few cars back is a big difference from being in front. I accept that Ambrose may have won if he hadnt been wiped out, may have won if he had worn his balaclava, but the bigger chance was that the car in front would have stayed in front. Ambrose is fast - that's why he has won the Championship - but not that much better than everyone else that it was a forgone conclusion.The Great race is all about 'what ifs' there were probably 10 teams who could have won the race, and 9 of them didnt because of various incidents and breakages. Ambrose was one of them.Lets hope for a better result next year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRT330 Member 135 Member For: 20y 11m 2d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 10/10/05 10:43 PM Share Posted 10/10/05 10:43 PM Hi GuysI recoreded the shootout and the race on Sunday. I went through the Shootout last night and I THINK Skaife was not wearing a balaclava during the Shootout.Does that mean he does not get the Win? This Bathurst is a real JOKE!!!!!!! The days of the better Driver/Team/Car winning on the day are GONE!!!!CheersXRT330 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Donating Members 998 Member For: 21y 4m 29d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Hills Posted 10/10/05 10:54 PM Share Posted 10/10/05 10:54 PM Hi GuysI recoreded the shootout and the race on Sunday. I went through the Shootout last night and I THINK Skaife was not wearing a balaclava during the Shootout.Does that mean he does not get the Win? This Bathurst is a real JOKE!!!!!!! The days of the better Driver/Team/Car winning on the day are GONE!!!!CheersXRT330yeah it is getting to be a joke and not just politically.Holdens with 9' diffs and watts linkages.BA's with old 5 litre v8's........how relevant these days are they really?I see production racing going the same way with the GT getting an alloy block to compensate for the boss being badly positioned too high in the chassis.I suppose the Holdens(and the dominant STi's god forbid) will get an equally inapproprite mod to compensate.None of this improves the breed.Bring back the old days of homologation when you raced a factory built hotrod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagabond Bored Member Administrator 35,722 Member For: 22y 1m 8d Gender: Male Location: Dé·jà vu Posted 10/10/05 11:32 PM Share Posted 10/10/05 11:32 PM Why did Ambrose do the splash and dash after coming in to put on the balaclava..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkey Member 337 Member For: 20y 11m 16d Posted 10/10/05 11:55 PM Share Posted 10/10/05 11:55 PM Why did Ambrose do the splash and dash after coming in to put on the balaclava..... <{POST_SNAPBACK}>He came in for the balaclava with about 40 laps to go. The next scheduled stop was with about 30 laps to go and this would have got them through to the end of the race.So he needed the splash to make it to the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumpen Poison Fish. Poison Fish. TASTY FISH!!! Donating Members 5,181 Member For: 21y 9m 7d Gender: Male Location: The Bogan Shire Posted 11/10/05 12:09 AM Share Posted 11/10/05 12:09 AM Bring back Series Production! Not even like we have now but like Bathurst in the late 60's and 70's! Race it like they built it...EXACTLY as it came off the floor dafe for a roll cage. Classes for price and not engine capacity!It'd be great, GT's vs LS2 vs STi vs Evo IX and XR6T's vs SS vs Clio Sport vs WRX. You'd bet your life Ford wouldn't release brake that shudder and Expensive Daewoo would think twice about power steering that explodes if you had a competition like that.Lumpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrdreaming Lifetime Members 1,693 Member For: 21y 10m 23d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 11/10/05 02:59 AM Share Posted 11/10/05 02:59 AM Great point Lumpy, I was thinking the same thing the other day.Even a 5 lap race in the current format on the Saturday or Sunday.Bog stock,XR8 v's SSGT v's ClubsportPursuit v's MalooMaybe after having it's arse handed to it in front of a national audience Ford might actually do somthing about performance and quality of components. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turb06 Dark Knight Mafia Member No. - 666 Member 3,667 Member For: 21y 9m 27d Location: Toowoomba Posted 11/10/05 03:01 AM Share Posted 11/10/05 03:01 AM Bring back Series Production! Not even like we have now but like Bathurst in the late 60's and 70's! Race it like they built it...EXACTLY as it came off the floor dafe for a roll cage. Classes for price and not engine capacity!It'd be great, GT's vs LS2 vs STi vs Evo IX and XR6T's vs SS vs Clio Sport vs WRX. You'd bet your life Ford wouldn't release brake that shudder and Expensive Daewoo would think twice about power steering that explodes if you had a competition like that.Lumpy <{POST_SNAPBACK}>But we already have a that series. Not enough people follow it. We also have the bathurst 24hr production car race.Dazza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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