harvyk Member 1,070 Member For: 20y 2m 23d Location: The North Cooma End of Canberra... Posted 14/09/05 03:49 AM Share Posted 14/09/05 03:49 AM Hey guysI've just been speaking with a guy here at work whom thinks you need to warm the turbo before you drive the car hard...Whilst I'm thinking that this is wrong as most of the drag racing guys have been talking about doing the 1/4 miles with cooler engines it would be nice to get a definative answer...Thanks... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/20051-warming-turbo-before-driving-hard/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobrav8 Member 1,969 Member For: 20y 2m Gender: Male Location: New Zealand Posted 14/09/05 03:53 AM Share Posted 14/09/05 03:53 AM Any mechanical part is designed to operate within a range of tempreatures. Normally the colder metal parts are - the less clearance there will be. So... you should warm up any engine, turbo or not before using its maximum capabilities. This will reduce wear and chances of breakages. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/20051-warming-turbo-before-driving-hard/#findComment-293987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvyk Member 1,070 Member For: 20y 2m 23d Location: The North Cooma End of Canberra... Posted 14/09/05 03:57 AM Author Share Posted 14/09/05 03:57 AM cobrav8 said: Any mechanical part is designed to operate within a range of tempreatures. Normally the colder metal parts are - the less clearance there will be. So... you should warm up any engine, turbo or not before using its maximum capabilities. This will reduce wear and chances of breakages.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>So to answer my more specific question me in my T vs a V8 Clubby from a completely cold start we'd both have to wait roughly the same amount of time...I had a feeling that was the answer, when the guy whom I was talking with I think he was getting the Turbo Rotary's and Turbo cars in general confussed... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/20051-warming-turbo-before-driving-hard/#findComment-293988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobrav8 Member 1,969 Member For: 20y 2m Gender: Male Location: New Zealand Posted 14/09/05 04:06 AM Share Posted 14/09/05 04:06 AM You dont have to do anything - if you feel like thrashing it from cold - it will go - just like the Clubby, it is just going to last you longer and perform better in the long run if warmed up first.I also dont think idling is enough to warm a motor thorughly - a gentle drive as well is good to warm up transmission, diff etc.I guess the Clubby has one less thing to warm up (the Turbo) but - I would say a 'kind' owner would warm up both motors roughly the same. The V8s often have more water and oil circulating - so can take longer to warm everything up (well they certainly do in my Big Block Cobra - 20 litres of oil and about the same or more of coolant - takes ages to get much temperature into it. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/20051-warming-turbo-before-driving-hard/#findComment-293992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XR06T Silver Donating Members 4,146 Member For: 19y 11m 1d Gender: Male Posted 14/09/05 04:11 AM Share Posted 14/09/05 04:11 AM I leave mine idling for 5 minutes before I drive it as it runs rich as and very 'chuggy' when driven cold.. is this normal and is warming it up idling better than not warming it up at all? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/20051-warming-turbo-before-driving-hard/#findComment-293996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8TOADS Silver Donating Members 3,618 Member For: 19y 10m 16d Gender: Male Location: OZ Posted 14/09/05 04:22 AM Share Posted 14/09/05 04:22 AM Manual says no need to warm engine.......buts that's from a fuel economy point of view. A short idle would be recommended, no engine should be thrashed when cold. Remember turbo cars should never be given gas on startup (ie reving it). This is because the turbo will start spinning excessively before the oil pump has supplied oil to the turbo....in other words good by bearings. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/20051-warming-turbo-before-driving-hard/#findComment-294004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cro Flower Power Lifetime Members 6,114 Member For: 22y 7m 13d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 14/09/05 04:25 AM Share Posted 14/09/05 04:25 AM I do it anyway, have a smoke whilst I warm up the engine...sometimes to cool it down as well. Don't know what I'll do if I ever quit smoking Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/20051-warming-turbo-before-driving-hard/#findComment-294007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobrav8 Member 1,969 Member For: 20y 2m Gender: Male Location: New Zealand Posted 14/09/05 04:30 AM Share Posted 14/09/05 04:30 AM (edited) Idling is better than nothing for sure. I often back the car out of the garage and let it warm up while eg getting the firewood in for the day (winter) - maybe I will have to take up smoking in summer?Just for the first minute or so down the road - dont give it absolute death. (plus your neighbours wont call the cops every time you start your car in anticipation).Same coming home - the last couple of streets are a quiet low rev drive - and a minute at idle before turning off (or maybe 30 or 40 seconds).Remember a drag car will only go for a few seconds - and teh professionals will rebuild after each race - or each meeting on the big boys stuff - longetvity isnt really what drag racing is all about. Edited 14/09/05 04:31 AM by cobrav8 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/20051-warming-turbo-before-driving-hard/#findComment-294008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvyk Member 1,070 Member For: 20y 2m 23d Location: The North Cooma End of Canberra... Posted 14/09/05 04:37 AM Author Share Posted 14/09/05 04:37 AM cobrav8 said: Idling is better than nothing for sure. I often back the car out of the garage and let it warm up while eg getting the firewood in for the day (winter) - maybe I will have to take up smoking in summer?Just for the first minute or so down the road - dont give it absolute death. (plus your neighbours wont call the cops every time you start your car in anticipation).Same coming home - the last couple of streets are a quiet low rev drive - and a minute at idle before turning off (or maybe 30 or 40 seconds).Remember a drag car will only go for a few seconds - and teh professionals will rebuild after each race - or each meeting on the big boys stuff - longetvity isnt really what drag racing is all about.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yeah true, this guy was simply saying it can't be done and the turbo needs to be at temp before you can drive... As I said I suspected this wasn't entirly true (of course the engine does like to be a little warm but ain't a requirement) but before I went and told him I wanted to get my facts straight (and what better and faster source) Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/20051-warming-turbo-before-driving-hard/#findComment-294016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobrav8 Member 1,969 Member For: 20y 2m Gender: Male Location: New Zealand Posted 14/09/05 04:49 AM Share Posted 14/09/05 04:49 AM Best you dont tell him I am an Accountant then. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/20051-warming-turbo-before-driving-hard/#findComment-294018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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