saleen Big Gun Donating Members 4,170 Member For: 22y 6m 14d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 13/09/05 09:14 AM Share Posted 13/09/05 09:14 AM Where's Peter from APS when we need him. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/20029-epa-nsw-defect-notice/page/3/#findComment-293728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trough Lolly Member 4,349 Member For: 20y 7m 16d Gender: Male Location: Mildura Posted 13/09/05 09:23 AM Share Posted 13/09/05 09:23 AM saleen said: Where's Peter from APS when we need him.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>still "working on the edit" Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/20029-epa-nsw-defect-notice/page/3/#findComment-293733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximum_velocity Lemming No #5 Member 1,991 Member For: 20y 5m 1d Gender: Male Location: Endeavour Hills, Victoria Posted 13/09/05 09:37 AM Share Posted 13/09/05 09:37 AM Trough Lolly said: saleen said: Where's Peter from APS when we need him.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>still "working on the edit" <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I heard its 2 weeks away Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/20029-epa-nsw-defect-notice/page/3/#findComment-293736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrturb god bless my kids Member 611 Member For: 20y 11m 30d Gender: Male Location: claremont meadows, sydney Posted 13/09/05 09:53 AM Share Posted 13/09/05 09:53 AM you know muzzza that the EPA dept is on rookwood rd Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/20029-epa-nsw-defect-notice/page/3/#findComment-293740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
saleen Big Gun Donating Members 4,170 Member For: 22y 6m 14d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 13/09/05 10:07 AM Share Posted 13/09/05 10:07 AM V8_FRD said: Trough Lolly said: saleen said: Where's Peter from APS when we need him.still "working on the edit" I heard its 2 weeks awayIt was.......................12 months ago Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/20029-epa-nsw-defect-notice/page/3/#findComment-293744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickq Member 740 Member For: 22y 2d Posted 13/09/05 12:04 PM Share Posted 13/09/05 12:04 PM What a load of crap.I would firstly write a letter of complaint to the EPA. The rules for measuring noise levels are *very* specific, as they dictate that a sound meter must be set up a certain distance and direction from the exhaust tip, and the engine must be revved at a certain amount of RPM, and the reading is taken and this is the noise of your car.Point out that you have a standard exchaust and there is no way this "expert" could have accurately determined that your car was too loud given he has no idea how many revs you were at, not an accurate idea of the amount of sound reduction caused by the car he was in, with his radio at a very vague "low" level, and that if the notice is not immediately withdrawn then you will take the matter to court and seek costs to be awarded to you. It is one thing if he is standing right next to your car - where he may be able to argue his years of experience allow him to make a reasonably accurate estimate that its too loud. Its quite another if he admits he was in an unusual environment, and being realistic has no idea of how that environment impacted on the noise he heard. Then get your car tested or as a free alternative find an exhaust expert (or Ford dealer) who is nice enough to write down that they have examined your system and believe the exhaust system to be 100% stock standard, functioning normally, and compliant with all laws, and send in photo copies of that documents to the EPA with your complaint.They know their complaint will not hold up in court - especially as he was in a car with another noise source close to him, and will withdraw the fine.Rather than waste their time - and worse yet incur costs, they will withdraw the notice. Also, from memory, arent the cars noise levels written on a sticker somewhere - either under the bonnet or inside one of the door frames?What a crock of sh1t. Dont take it sitting down, and only do the proper test as a last resort. Hell, to call their bluff I woudl tell them you will come down to where he is, and let him AND his colleagues listen to it under more normal conditions and THEN if they still conclude its too loud, will happily agree to have it tested. Otherwise, tell them you will see them in court.(You can always just get it tested later and not go to court....but you get the satisfaction of telling them you cant wait until you see him in court and watching their reaction as they calculate the odds of them winning)I hate crap like that. Total abuse of power. I never take it sitting down. None of them have taken me up on my offer to go to court yet Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/20029-epa-nsw-defect-notice/page/3/#findComment-293808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawsy Wanabe mechanical engineer Donating Members 960 Member For: 20y 7m 7d Gender: Male Location: At the computer, obviously..... Posted 13/09/05 12:33 PM Share Posted 13/09/05 12:33 PM Fight the power mickq, love your work...Muz, get off the forums and into MS Word and start typing.Let them know the car is standard, let them know that the officer couldn't possibly have made a proper judgement of the sound and let them know that if the fine isn't withdrawn asap, that they will be incuring all court costs and wages when the judge finds you to be innocent... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/20029-epa-nsw-defect-notice/page/3/#findComment-293833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NT TURBO Member 1,128 Member For: 22y 1m 9d Gender: Male Location: Darwin NT Posted 14/09/05 04:06 AM Share Posted 14/09/05 04:06 AM Lawsy said: Fight the power mickq, love your work...Muz, get off the forums and into MS Word and start typing.Let them know the car is standard, let them know that the officer couldn't possibly have made a proper judgement of the sound and let them know that if the fine isn't withdrawn asap, that they will be incuring all court costs and wages when the judge finds you to be innocent...<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Here here, and make a formal complaint about the"senior" officer involved. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/20029-epa-nsw-defect-notice/page/3/#findComment-293991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle33 Member 578 Member For: 20y 2m Gender: Male Location: brisbane Posted 16/09/05 11:30 AM Share Posted 16/09/05 11:30 AM NT TURBO said: Lawsy said: Fight the power mickq, love your work...Muz, get off the forums and into MS Word and start typing.Let them know the car is standard, let them know that the officer couldn't possibly have made a proper judgement of the sound and let them know that if the fine isn't withdrawn asap, that they will be incuring all court costs and wages when the judge finds you to be innocent...<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Here here, and make a formal complaint about the"senior" officer involved.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>ask them to supply the NATA certificte of inspection/callibration on his ears. I ignored a speeding fine where the cop "estimated" my speed, got summoned to appear, turned up with a stat dec from my passenger to say the cop guessed our speed and the cop got yelled for being so stupid. Case dismissed (cost me my time though) Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/20029-epa-nsw-defect-notice/page/3/#findComment-295032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-WING Member 811 Member For: 21y 4m 21d Location: BRISBANE Posted 16/09/05 11:36 AM Share Posted 16/09/05 11:36 AM The epa officer must have had his hearing aid set on high Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/20029-epa-nsw-defect-notice/page/3/#findComment-295035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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