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Epa (nsw) Defect Notice


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Hi Guys

Found a surprise in the mailbox yesterday.

Would you beleive it, a defect notice for exhaust noise.

First, no explanation of who, how, where it was measured.

Second, exhaust is total stock. 2003 Turbo

Now I'm expected to prove my innocence by having the car tested.

I thought it was innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around.

If it is proven excessive, Ford have a lot of cars out there to be worried about.

Has anyone there had any experiences like this? Your feedback would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Muzzzza...

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NSW police, epa and pollies are the biggest gimps in the country! :laughing:

We may have bracks happy snappers everywhere, but we don't get defected for driving nice cars!

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I heard a rumor about ADR and Ford and this was a major reason in ford canning warranties.

I believe they are under a lot of pressure meet the standards and discourage owners from modifying exhausts that don’t meet the ADR, hence a lot of warranty is rejected on the grounds the exhaust has been tampered with making the vehicle illegal and non ADR compliant.

All sounds like Crap to me.. Some turkey in an Gov, office trying to make a name for himself I think

:laughing::spoton:

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NSW police, epa and pollies are the biggest gimps in the country! :laughing:

We may have bracks happy snappers everywhere, but we don't get defected for driving nice cars!

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na we do!

just ask the ricers!!!

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NSW police, epa and pollies are the biggest gimps in the country! :laughing:

We may have bracks happy snappers everywhere, but we don't get defected for driving nice cars!

na we do!

just ask the ricers!!!

And hence the fact I said NICE cars!

There aren't to many rice boxes I would drive, and the jap ones I would are tough not rice!

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Here's an update after phoning EPA...

Detected by an EPA officer near where I work.

How? not with sophisticated equipment...

He could hear it from inside his car when the radio was on low.

Very technical, hey!

Mind you they said he is a very senior officer & knows a lot about cars. What a load of BS.

Rang Ford, they cant even tell me what the noise level should be based on their testing.

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Hey Muzza that sucks man. I know your exhaust is stock with no mods and you get a defect notice ???? Now every Turbo has to go and get their exhaust modified :laughing:

He obviously did not like you mate.

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Firstly, you probably need to get the test done and acquire a readout of the actual noise levels in writing. This will unavoidably be at your expense at this stage.

If the noise level is in compliance with the ADRs you then seek legal advice about suing the officer personally for his complaint against you which was unfounded. It has to be unfounded if it was done by ear - can't see how that could possibly ever hold up in court. You seek compensation from him personally for your out of pocket expenses for having the test done and for your legal fees. Try for damages as well for the stress it has caused you.

If the noise level is found to be excessive then you get your solititor to write to Ford seeking rectification of the problem, compensation, and damages for the stress etc that it has caused you.

Finally, it is total BS that Ford cannot give you the exhaust noise levels of the car - they have to comply with rigorous testing to ensure the car complies with all the ADRs so of course they have the data. Get your solicitor onto them. Maybe they will realise you're serious when they get a letter from him threatening whatever legal actions he can think of.

Good luck mate, and keep us informed how it goes....

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damn that sux, sorry to hear muzza, but because he heard your car you could of been in a lower gear and the car revving a bit more than usual

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if the car is stock, it is a FoMoCo problem, not yours !! :blush:

not your role to prove ADR compliance on a factory standard car

good luck and make as much NOISE as you can :blush:

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