MRDOHC When in doubt ... Accelerate! Member 440 Member For: 21y 2m 22d Location: Melbourne, Hoppers Xing Posted 25/08/05 05:10 AM Share Posted 25/08/05 05:10 AM (edited) its pretty stupid in Victoria though from what I can see in the act, dangerous/careless driving can be applied to just about ANYTHING you do on the road not just speed...Take this example if you will, travelling 75 in 80 zone, through round about and left , not slowing down much as you do it, in fact barely touched the brakes...Cop sees you pulls you over, cant get you on speeding but takes you on for driving in a manner dangerous.Explanation, did not drive to conditions of the time...Where is the line drawn, when it is rainin we are expected to adjust our driving to the conditions (same charge if you hit something in the wet ie: keep left sign if your doing 60 in a 60 zone) but when your driving and no traffic, well known road to you, and conditions are favourable, why cant we adjust our driving to those conditions also...sorry .. just upset ... Edited 25/08/05 05:12 AM by MRDOHC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryPhoon Member 180 Member For: 19y 5m 19d Posted 25/08/05 09:03 AM Share Posted 25/08/05 09:03 AM Anyone know if it's true that fixed radar speed cameras and mobile radars do not work correctly in the rain - therefore do not register?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 7m 5d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 25/08/05 09:07 AM Share Posted 25/08/05 09:07 AM Don't you guys get a photo on the infringement notice down there? At the very least it gives me something to admire when I have the displeasure of getting one in the mail!SIX MONTHS FOR 230 kph!?why? is it really that dangerous? I don't think so.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Are you rubbing in those open speed limits again??? Oh no sorry that's right, you live in Perth. Mistaken identity.Trent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antisocial Weird Member Member 1,347 Member For: 21y 9m 27d Location: ACT Posted 25/08/05 10:29 AM Share Posted 25/08/05 10:29 AM Anyone know if it's true that fixed radar speed cameras and mobile radars do not work correctly in the rain - therefore do not register??<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Was true many years ago when they were either vertically or horizontally polarised radar signals.Now with circular polarisation and other such magic, rain is not an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA_Turbs Member 836 Member For: 21y 3m 10d Gender: Male Posted 25/08/05 11:17 AM Share Posted 25/08/05 11:17 AM its pretty stupid in Victoria though from what I can see in the act, dangerous/careless driving can be applied to just about ANYTHING you do on the road not just speed...Take this example if you will, travelling 75 in 80 zone, through round about and left , not slowing down much as you do it, in fact barely touched the brakes...Cop sees you pulls you over, cant get you on speeding but takes you on for driving in a manner dangerous.Explanation, did not drive to conditions of the time...Where is the line drawn, when it is rainin we are expected to adjust our driving to the conditions (same charge if you hit something in the wet ie: keep left sign if your doing 60 in a 60 zone) but when your driving and no traffic, well known road to you, and conditions are favourable, why cant we adjust our driving to those conditions also...sorry .. just upset ... <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Not really. This has been oversimplified. I have been accused of turning things into legalese ( ), but unfortunately in this arena, that's the way it is.If you were simply doing 20km/h over the limit, you would not be charged with driving in a manner dangerous, you would be charged for doing 20km/h over the limit (in the form of a penalty notice most likely). If however you were driving at 70km/h in a 50km/h zone and there was a bunch rallying, placard waving Hoff fanatics on the road, you could be charged with more serious offences, Manner Dangerous at the very least and most likely a conduct endangering life (Despite that, you would also deserve the Order of Australia medal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falchoon I see red Member 5,758 Member For: 21y 11m 14d Location: nowhere in particular Posted 25/08/05 11:57 AM Share Posted 25/08/05 11:57 AM Anyone know if it's true that fixed radar speed cameras and mobile radars do not work correctly in the rain - therefore do not register??<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Was true many years ago when they were either vertically or horizontally polarised radar signals.Now with circular polarisation and other such magic, rain is not an issue. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I had heard that too that speed cameras didn't work when it was raining but I've seen plenty of them out there and operating on wet days. Mind you, it was raining pretty lightly, not pi$$ing down.Peter Brock could probably tell you more about polarisation.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAP No boost, no bottle, just my foot on the throttle! Lifetime Members 7,935 Member For: 20y 9m 16d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 25/08/05 01:23 PM Share Posted 25/08/05 01:23 PM LIDAR (Laser) does not work well in the wet due to all the reflections and the fact the cops do not like getting wet.Radar has not reall issue with normal rain, but if it was really nailing down I think you could get effect.I bet there are not many drivers over 20 on this forum that have not been over 200km/h on a public roadNSW has stupid driving laws. Did you know if you get done for more than 131km/h in any speed zone, you automaticly loose your license for 1 month.IT SUCKSThey need to teach drivers not TAX them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom XR6 Member 1,460 Member For: 21y 7m 4d Location: Geelong Victoria Posted 26/08/05 10:07 AM Share Posted 26/08/05 10:07 AM SIX MONTHS FOR 230 kph!?why? is it really that dangerous? I don't think so.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't think it's so much the fact that he was doing 230KM/h, it was the fact that he did it on a road which you go get cars (and wildlife) jumping out from either side, and the fact that it' can be a very busy road (It’s the main road between Canberra and Sydney, and part of it is also the main road between Sydney and Melbourne) so he would have been swerving like crazy to avoid hitting anyone… (Probably had to go onto the side of the road a few times…)<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think that its ridiculous that he got 6 months jail when scumbag junkies who rob peoples houses get let off with either suspended sentances or fines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvyk Member 1,070 Member For: 19y 9m Location: The North Cooma End of Canberra... Posted 27/08/05 01:33 AM Share Posted 27/08/05 01:33 AM SIX MONTHS FOR 230 kph!?why? is it really that dangerous? I don't think so.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't think it's so much the fact that he was doing 230KM/h, it was the fact that he did it on a road which you go get cars (and wildlife) jumping out from either side, and the fact that it' can be a very busy road (It’s the main road between Canberra and Sydney, and part of it is also the main road between Sydney and Melbourne) so he would have been swerving like crazy to avoid hitting anyone… (Probably had to go onto the side of the road a few times…)<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think that its ridiculous that he got 6 months jail when scumbag junkies who rob peoples houses get let off with either suspended sentances or fines.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> But I guess it depend how the judge feels on the day in some cases... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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