Ford Know That You Have The Edit

[Power]

  Shockwave-T said:

  NT TURBO said:

  V8_FRD said:

  Grass said:

  V8_FRD said:

  weapon said:

I hear that ford can tell if you have the edit on your car evan if you retern it back to factory settings. because your car has a computer that rembers all info about your car like how fast you have been how many times your car has been over 5000rpm and I think they have the computer to help them void your warenty

also does the edit disable traction control

Dosent matter how many times your car has been over 5,000 rpm. There is nothing illegal or wrong with doing so. If ford think they can void your warranty for that they can go and get because a T can rev up to about 5,800 rpm from factory. If its going to damage the motor then put a rev limit at 5 grand.

I'd be more concerned at them being able to tell for how long and how many times you'd had the rear end "lit up" as they would void warranty on a lot of the drive line components..

How could they tell if you have lit up the rear bags...

......because the revs wont match the wheel speed? abs sensors?

A second or two wouldnt matter, but if its recorded 5800 rpm at 10km/hr for 10.85seconds, it would be fairly obvious, I have know idea what parameters are recorded though?

If you're doing a burnout at 5,800RPM your speedo will not be reading 10km/h.

He means front wheel speed.

[sixfan]

  BlueXR6Turbo said:

  weapon said:

does the edit disable traction control

No.

Oh yes it does! Even with the "New" fixed code my TC switches off.

This is how ford can tell, the TC error code gets stored. Reflash back to standard, Disconnect your battery overnight and drive around for ~ an hour before you take the T in. Or, just accept the fact that you've modified and therefore you don't have a driveline warranty anymore.

[FORDTECH]

It really is quite easy to tell.As long as you know how to interpret the information that you are reading.

[God666]

Hey, as stated earlier, you play, you need to be prepared to pay (or more correctly, accept that as the default setting). Ford should not have to pay because you want to put more kw through the driveline. However, I don't accept that they should negate warranty on other areas not affected by rwkw (not that it appears many have suffered this fate other than through some d1ckhead claims from less than fair dealers).

Fordtech, are Ford Service actively looking for 'edit' type indicators in the ECU?

[jetute]

  sixfan said:

  BlueXR6Turbo said:

  weapon said:

does the edit disable traction control

No.

Oh yes it does! Even with the "New" fixed code my TC switches off.

This is how ford can tell, the TC error code gets stored. Reflash back to standard, Disconnect your battery overnight and drive around for ~ an hour before you take the T in. Or, just accept the fact that you've modified and therefore you don't have a driveline warranty anymore.

I believe this code can get logged even without the edit.....

[minstral]

ok the code you are talking about can be created in several other ways, this in its self is a hurdle for ford should they decide not to replace something under waranty as it can be proven to be ""possible"" to create the same code from other problems. Yes ford can after reading what codes have been generated and what codes have been stored, but these codes can be generated in many other circumstances hence fi anyone were to dispute it in court they should win. Also the fact that the ecu can only store so many codes before it starts writting over what is allready stored ie not much memory

[FORDTECH]

  God666 said:

Hey, as stated earlier, you play, you need to be prepared to pay (or more correctly, accept that as the default setting).  Ford should not have to pay because you want to put more kw through the driveline.  However, I don't accept that they should negate warranty on other areas not affected by rwkw (not that it appears many have suffered this fate other than through some d1ckhead claims from less than fair dealers).

Fordtech, are Ford Service actively looking for 'edit' type indicators in the ECU?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I think it's pretty safe to say that there isn't a manufacturer around that isn't actively investigating these types of things.Remember these types of modifications, whose primary objective is to vastly improve the performance of the vehicles they are installed on, are also produced to decieve the manufacturers.

I also think it's quite naive of people to think that all "Ford Technicians" are as stupid as they think.It is quite easy to tell the difference between normal wear and tare and vehicle abuse.Remember these cars have been around for almost 3 years now and there is a high percentage of them that have never exhibited any of the problems that alot of people on this forum have had.

[God666]

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I also think it's quite naive of people to think that all "Ford Technicians" are as stupid as they think.

I would rather have 99% of the Ford Technicians servicing my car than most of the guys on this site. I suppose I am just a little surprised by the attitude of some service departments. Ford should probably make a quite clear policy that if you enhance kw, goodbye driveline warranty (within reason) however, every warranty claim where there is an enhancement should be looked at from the perspective of cause and effect. That would probably stop some of the bagging of MOFOCO and stupid statements by some service departments.

[Adam]

Do you really think that Ford would not cover say a broken electric window motor under warranty because you've modified your power output. Come on!

My dealer is well aware of the mods I have and is keen to have a drive actually. We agreed that driveline problems are my responsibility and in return my car won't be warranty listed.

As far as proving whether edit is detectable I believe it is, with the right person operating the WDS. Maybe we can organise a test to prove/disprove this once and for all.

[minstral]

Ok agreed that for shouldnt have to wear the bill but if there build quallity was of a higher standard, I am yet to find one ford driver that hasnt been back for some waranty issue. And if you havnt that's nice most have had too and when you do it for 10th time with still the same problems or more being caused in the process then you to may look to the edit to solve your problems. And yes you may get more power usally because the car has now been tuned properly for the first time. I still dont have the edit but will soon as it seems to be the only way to get xr6ts going well