ZMAN Member 669 Member For: 21y 6m 14d Location: Inglewood, W.A Posted 30/06/05 08:14 AM Share Posted 30/06/05 08:14 AM This has been my bug bear since day dott, have complained till I've turned blue in the face to finally have my pads replaced with the new "so called non squeal pads" only to find after a few thousand k's the squeal to rear its ugly head. Phucking useless if you ask me...pay an extra 3k to get the constant squealing. When I do change my pads I will be going to replace them with "Green Stuff" by EBC apparently are a fantastic brake pad. Only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEN 24T Gandalf the Grey, Maiar of Manwë and Varda, Team HgAg/Sneaky Member 7,371 Member For: 21y 4m 16d Gender: Male Location: The Shire, Middle Earth Posted 30/06/05 08:53 AM Share Posted 30/06/05 08:53 AM I have Premium brakes and they squealed until I went back to the dealer and got the TSB (Technical Service Bulletin?) applied, e.g., new pads. No squealing for me since ... well, not from the brakes at least. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>How many Ks since you had this done???<{POST_SNAPBACK}>To be honest I'm not sure, but I think it was at the 30,000k service. I'm now at 46,600k and I have no squeaking, squealing or brake noise of any kind. ... maybe I'm just lucky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBOSS Faster than any BTA,XTC,Autotech, Nizpro and Tunehouse car Member 3,918 Member For: 21y 4m 24d Location: D SHIRE! Posted 30/06/05 08:59 AM Share Posted 30/06/05 08:59 AM ... maybe I'm just lucky? <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well !!!!Lucky must be a new way to say SOFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaded Member 77 Member For: 20y 9m 10d Location: sydney Posted 30/06/05 09:18 AM Share Posted 30/06/05 09:18 AM I too have had the dreaded squeal.I persisted with complaining to the point where they replaced the rotors but still the squeal,until my dealer advised me of a second revised pad which finally did the job.Not a hint of squeal for 4000kms now.You pay good money for what is meant to be a superior product in the case of the Turbo model so you must not tollerate their rubbish and lies.I was fed comments like that's how performance brakes behave etc.Has anyone heard a porshce with squealing brakes,I haven't.Good luck Countryphoon.Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryPhoon Member 180 Member For: 19y 5m 3d Posted 30/06/05 10:25 AM Author Share Posted 30/06/05 10:25 AM I too have had the dreaded squeal.I persisted with complaining to the point where they replaced the rotors but still the squeal,until my dealer advised me of a second revised pad which finally did the job.Not a hint of squeal for 4000kms now.You pay good money for what is meant to be a superior product in the case of the Turbo model so you must not tollerate their rubbish and lies.I was fed comments like that's how performance brakes behave etc.Has anyone heard a porshce with squealing brakes,I haven't.Good luck Countryphoon.Peter<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Txs. Seems as though there is a SECOND upgrade on the pads - from what u say. And u r right about the crap excuses; Ive had an WRX STi for 25,000 ks, including Targa, and not a squeak out its brembos with standard factory pads..CountryPhoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyko Member 4 Member For: 20y 10m 17d Posted 14/10/05 12:32 PM Share Posted 14/10/05 12:32 PM Hi all,Thought I'd put my two bobs in.....Just like everyone else, I forked out extra $3K so I wouldn't get the shudder of the stocko's. No one told me the squeal was for free!Been back to dealer three times until they had the upgrade pads available. Once installed I thought problem had been fixed but returned after 2,000 k's. Got jack of the rubbish spun by Ford so went to specialist brake pad company in Melbourne called Race Brakes. Seems that the PBR caliper isn't the best design going round. According to the guys at Race Brakes, main problem is that the pads move around slightly under braking. Also, the pistons in the front caliper are the same size - what should be the case is the the leading piston should be larger than the rear piston to give greater pressure to the leading edge. This is what AP Racing do with their calipers (I was shown one when I visited). Furthermore, the 'overlaping grooves' on the discs are also a no-no, but that another story...Anyway, the guys at Race Brakes install one of their own sets of pads with a tapered edge (reason for this is that the squeal occurs from the edge of the pad). I've also got some glazing on my discs due to the stop start Melbourne traffic (and my gentle driving style!). The problem will never be totally eliminated as I do get some 'slight' squeal when cold, but nothing like I had to endure with the Ford pads. My car has done about 8,000k's (total 37,000 k's) and I'm much happier. Another advantage is the brake dust that would coat the front rims after 2-3 days has been reduced dramatically. Cost all up (pads, machine and labour) $140. I trust this helps guys.regards.....Lyko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotom Team Bute Donating Members 1,550 Member For: 21y 4m Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 14/10/05 12:52 PM Share Posted 14/10/05 12:52 PM I too have had the dreaded squeal.I persisted with complaining to the point where they replaced the rotors but still the squeal,until my dealer advised me of a second revised pad which finally did the job.Not a hint of squeal for 4000kms now.You pay good money for what is meant to be a superior product in the case of the Turbo model so you must not tollerate their rubbish and lies.I was fed comments like that's how performance brakes behave etc.Has anyone heard a porshce with squealing brakes,I haven't.Good luck Countryphoon.PeterHaven't you ever been to a race track?I have yet to hear any real performance brake system NOT squeal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goobz Member 746 Member For: 20y 1m 4d Location: Sutherland Shire, Sydney Posted 14/10/05 08:22 PM Share Posted 14/10/05 08:22 PM I have a set of DBA 4000 rotors and ultimates, and was all excited cause I could finally get rid of the squeal...These bastards squeal worse than the premo's did!!! I have just learnt to live with it( read: turn the radio up)Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryPhoon Member 180 Member For: 19y 5m 3d Posted 14/10/05 10:36 PM Author Share Posted 14/10/05 10:36 PM Guys - I finally almost totally eliminated the squeal in mine; stayed with the stock pads - but on advice from specialist - I sprayed a solution called "De-Squeak" by CRC on each of the rotors.. Had to do it 3 times over about 3 weeks - but in the end it fixed the problem. Apparently it fills in the small imperfections in the rotor that causes the pad to start vibrating - and making the squeal.. Doesn't affect braking performance - so all is good... (There is another product called "The Silencer" that does the same thing...not sure who makes it).Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAP No boost, no bottle, just my foot on the throttle! Lifetime Members 7,935 Member For: 20y 9m 1d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 15/10/05 12:36 AM Share Posted 15/10/05 12:36 AM Well I have had the Metal Kings installed now for 4 months and I get NO SQUEEL now. I am very happy as the pads feel better and are yet to fade.I gave up on Ford making this right. Road car brakes should not squeel, race brakes do because they run much larger setup that need to have space for the pads to expand when hot, this is the main reason race brakes squeel, but its only when cold.If you want a fix, get the Metal Kings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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