mickq Member 740 Member For: 21y 8m 20d Posted 02/06/05 01:16 PM Share Posted 02/06/05 01:16 PM If they dont at least keep up with the new LS2 engine, with the power level that will be in the SS later this year, I will be moving to the dark side. 240kw will be a bit of a joke if the SS in Sept/October this year is putting out 270kw+, has 6 litres, and goes like a rocket. If the XR8 cant keep up with the world, I say time to get rid of it. (Better yet - make it have some decent bloody performance!). No way its lack of balls should be used as an excuse to hold back the XR6T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flukey Seriously Flukey Member Donating Members 4,354 Member For: 20y 9m 21d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 02/06/05 01:24 PM Share Posted 02/06/05 01:24 PM No way its lack of balls should be used as an excuse to hold back the XR6T.Too true grasshopper.Add extra KW to T, make for poor sales of GT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeron Member 194 Member For: 20y 8m 25d Location: Sydney Posted 02/06/05 01:31 PM Share Posted 02/06/05 01:31 PM How about they put the Falcon range on a Diet to make the thing quicker. Then they'll stop and corner better. If you've had one a race track, you'll know where im coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordboy1981 Donating Members 2,075 Member For: 21y 11m 24d Gender: Male Location: Sydney, NSW Posted 02/06/05 02:02 PM Share Posted 02/06/05 02:02 PM Maybe they'll bring out a turbo coupe to rival the monaro? Boost the power to 300kw.I heard a rumour that the Monaro 2 is not going to be released, sighting financial reasons, you see where as Expensive Daewoo Australia is doing very well the rest of GM is battling. it's market share has dropped from 40% to below 20% with a 4 billion dollar total loss on the Fiat fiasco not helping.Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordboy1981 Donating Members 2,075 Member For: 21y 11m 24d Gender: Male Location: Sydney, NSW Posted 02/06/05 02:17 PM Share Posted 02/06/05 02:17 PM I don't think they will.1) We sort of have a 300kw gentlemans agreement, if you raise the XR6 power you leave little room to fit the FPVs and the XR8.I don't know about a 300kw gentlemans agreement, Expensive Daewoo haven't gone over 300kw because they don't believe the VT shell can cope with anymore then 300.Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew50 Member 75 Member For: 20y 10d Posted 02/06/05 03:13 PM Share Posted 02/06/05 03:13 PM There's something to be said about the power war between Ford and Holden. Only recently we all witnessed what happened when Ford/ FPV made a big deal publically about the Typhoon. The Government wanted to step in to speed limit locally made high performance vehicles. Yet HSV with a less public fanfare are getting away with higher power outputs. Its about how you are going to introduce higher output models without hitting the "public" panic button. The public image of "Turbo" enhanced cars has a lot to do with it and some of it understandably after some pretty serious "ricer" accidents in Melbourne not to mention the 2 fast 2 furious crap. Expect Ford to tread very carefully in the enhancement stakes, as we all know they are quite conservative. Personally I think the "T" will stay exactly where it is, it was a very successful "experiment" (Ford couldn't even be bothered giving the Turbo a distinct visual identity!). Ford will attempt to continue to fight V8 with V8, that's where the Australian public still is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iTec TEAM BA Donating Members 1,755 Member For: 20y 1m 3d Gender: Male Location: North of The Bridge Posted 02/06/05 06:29 PM Share Posted 02/06/05 06:29 PM One thing I am guessing is that the T will get the phoon clutch.. way to much money was spent on it just to be used in one low volume vehicle, you spread that cost out amongst the higher selling T and it becomes a little more feasible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingah2 Crusty aviator Member 846 Member For: 20y 6m 23d Gender: Male Location: ACT Posted 02/06/05 08:17 PM Share Posted 02/06/05 08:17 PM 6 Speed auto = slightly better acceleration fro same power and slightly better fuel consumption + gottohave factor = improved sales and lasting appeal. Cost probably up by $1500.Dingah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbofalke Member 658 Member For: 20y 1m 27d Location: Mexico Posted 02/06/05 11:14 PM Share Posted 02/06/05 11:14 PM I dont think it'd be worth increasing the power on the MkIII T, I wouldn't be suprised if the Phoon came down in price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLK6T Member 305 Member For: 20y 2m 27d Gender: Male Location: Sydney NSW Posted 03/06/05 12:24 AM Author Share Posted 03/06/05 12:24 AM All valid points, even if the MkIII stays they would have to up it in the all new falcon if it has a T in the range. Its evident the T can handle a slight power increase with the F6 at 270kw. Even at 245-250kw mark with an all new gearbox and as time goes by improvements will come. But we cant stay at 240kw not if the ss is to get more go.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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