Brightness Of The Icc Screen

[Guest potai]

I posted the following on the "Trueblueford.com" forum in December and got no response, now that I have found this forum from an article in "Street Machine" I'd have to say I'm really impressed with the content. Perhaps someone here can help me.

My XR6 Turbo has the colour screen (ICC) 6 disc in dash CD audio system (Premium sound). A feature (page 78 of the owners manual) states that "the brightness automatically dims when the parking or headlights are switched on.."

Now I like to drive during the day with the fog lights on (so that the looneys can see me coming), hence the "parking" lights are on.

Do any of you know how this works as I don't want to have the brightness of the integrated command centre dimming when the lights are only on park (Fog lights going during the day), of course I still want it to dim when the main headlights are on at night.

Is it simply finding the sense wire from the headlight switch to the command centre which I need to change from a park light position to a main beam position? Any ideas?

Cheers

Potai (Akl)

[Ninka]

Sounds like you have the right idea, the question is only finding the wire!

Maybe Harasn can help with diagram? :idea:

[Turbo6man]

There is no wire for this as there was in the "old" cars - it is controlled by the BEM so you have to live with a dim display during the day if you have your lights on.

Now, just maybe there is a fix for this - some cars have the "headlights on" feature and I wonder if there is a different program setting for the BEM in this instance. It is worth an inquiry to your local dealer 'cos he might just be able to alter a preference setting in the BEM to suit you - trouble is then, because you don't actually have the lights on feature on your car, you will have bright ICC lights at night - so comes back somewhat to original prob I guess.

[turb06]

I have the headlights on feature on installed and the lights come on during the day (obviously) leaving the icc display (also premium sound) at its brightest. At night you still have to turn the headlights on at the stalk in order for the dash lights to come on also, which then turn the brightness of the icc down to night mode I suppose you could call it. It would fix your problem but it does cost $115 to have this feature, I was lucky enough to get it for free or I wouldnt have bothered with it.

[Guest potai]

Team,

Thanks for your prompt and informative responses. I'll go see my dealer and get the headlights on feature or see if there is a derivative of it.

Cheers

[Turbo6man]

OK, I have thought of a way around this if you can't get the headlights on feature or if it is too expensive to install "aftermarket".

You will need a relay, an on/off switch, an inline fuse, and some 4mm cable and about 6 1/4"x 4mm female spade terminals and a couple of 1/4"x 4mm ring terminals.

The relay can be mounted in the electrical box behind the battery - there is a space in there that can be used - don't mount the relay though 'till you have wired it up as the terminals will be inaccessible. You can feed the wires in from the front top edge near where some existing cables are located.

Find an "accessory souce" of power - there is one under the steering column in a multi-connector - it is yellow and possibly has a coloured stripe but I can't remember now for sure and don't have the car here to check - test with a test light to find the right one. Splice into this and take it to your switch. Mount the switch under the lower dash or somewhere to suit yourself. From the other terminal of your switch run a wire to the #85 terminal of your relay - if you have an auto the best way through the firewall is via the blanking plug where the clutch cable would run. If you have a manual you'll have to find another way through.

Run a wire to earth from #86 terminal of your relay - test that you've done right by turning on your ACC and then turn on the switch - the relay should click. If not go back over everything 'till you get it to do so. Then turn everything OFF and continue:-

From #87 terminal (sometimes there are two) run a wire to behind the driver's side headlight and splice into the "top" wire in the three pin connector. If you find it easier you can go to the passenger side as the driver's side is hard to access. You only have to connect to one side for both lights to work.

Finally, run a cable with an inline fuse from the POS terminal of the battery to terminal #30 on your relay.

Now do your test again and your headlights should come on low beam.

These instructions will ensure that you cannot accidently leave your lights ON when you leave your car. I have also used the headlights rather than fog lights as the example because it is illegal to drive with your fog lights on during the day in some, if not all, states.

As this bypasses your normal headlight circuit your ICC will not go dim.

Good luck.

PS If you are not confident with electrics it is far safer to take the car to an autoelec ...

[Cashie]

  turb06 said:

I have the headlights on feature on installed and the lights come on during the day (obviously) leaving the icc display (also premium sound) at its brightest. At night you still have to turn the headlights on at the stalk in order for the dash lights to come on also, which then turn the brightness of the icc down to night mode I suppose you could call it. It would fix your problem but it does cost $115 to have this feature, I was lucky enough to get it for free or I wouldnt have bothered with it.

This may or may not solve Potai's problem.

Does the screen dim if you push the fog light button in (and turn on the fog lights) during the day?

Potai appears to want to drive with his fog lights on not just his headlights.

[Turbo6man]

  XR6na said:

  turb06 said:

I have the headlights on feature on installed and the lights come on during the day (obviously) leaving the icc display (also premium sound) at its brightest.  At night you still have to turn the headlights on at the stalk in order for the dash lights to come on also, which then turn the brightness of the icc down to night mode I suppose you could call it.  It would fix your problem but it does cost $115 to have this feature, I was lucky enough to get it for free or I wouldnt have bothered with it.

This may or may not solve Potai's problem.

Does the screen dim if you push the fog light button in (and turn on the fog lights) during the day?

Potai appears to want to drive with his fog lights on not just his headlights.

As he lives in eNZed he may be able to do this but in the land of OZ he would eventually be pulled over - to have the fog lights on by themselves is very easy - just splice the wire from terminal #87 on the relay to one of the fog light feeds under the front bumper cover - to remove the undertray is about a dozen or so 7mm head screws and a couple of phillips head screws - the wires to the fog lights are then easily accessible - I think they are a brown and a black with the black being an earth return - a test light will verify which to splice into which is the one with power when the fog lights are turned on by the car's normal switch.

Yes the ICC screen dims if the fog lights are turned on during the day as they are wired through the car's park light circuit - I'm not sure what happens though if the lights on feature is fitted to the car - someone who has this feature will have to tell us.

[Guest potai]

In NZ there is seperate rules for Fog Lights and Driving Lights and they are dependant on the original configuration of the vehicles lights.

The XR6 has what is deemed as a Dual (Double high beam) headlamp system and therefore is permitted to have one pair of Fog lights wired as follows:

*Fogs lights must be permanently dipped and may operate independantly of the vehicles original equipment headlamps.

* Driving Lights are not permitted.

Ref: http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/publications/vir-m...2aux-fogpdf.pdf

(Check out the last page)

I would be surprised if Australia is radically different, you should check out if there is reference to Driving and Fogs lights under your legislation.

[XR6TK1W1]

Potai, I have a feeling that all this is controlled by the backlight relay. I'm not overly sure of this. Also when I talked to the service tech the other day he said he was able to alter certain funtions of the BEM manually. This may be a better solution than adding a feature. If not I have some diagrams that may assist in a change to the config to the wiring.