Vic Spotted & Chat Thread

[etrocket]

I built it, car has never been to a workshop

You a mechanic

[bossmang]

et you sold that Expensive Daewoo yet? where is that link

[dre]

low smell in the car give u the sh*ts

That smell in the car was probably me. I've never been a passenger in a car with that much power. It's a scary experience.

E85 worked out around the same cost vs 98 for me. Although the way snapper was driving I'm not suprised at his high usage.

Edited 07/05/12 01:16 PM by dre

[james333]

300rwkw on 98 average 10ltrs/100km

350rwkw on E85 13ltrs/100km

I reset the trip computer for straight freeway, 8.3ltrs for 98 , 8.8ltrs E85.

Did your tuner adjust the timing for cruise as well? It may help economy on E85.

Easily the best mod ive done on the 20+ cars ive owned.

Edited 07/05/12 01:33 PM by james333

[etrocket]

Dre - much difference (bum on seat) between your car and snappers?

Edited 07/05/12 01:44 PM by etrocket

[bossmang]

whats snap snap running at the wheels now?

snap and dre drive like girls anyways

[flyxrt]

Is e85 something that is going to be around for a long time? And is it just united that have it. Also how much to tune on e85

[TonezXR6T]

info for uses >>>>>

WHERE?

In Sydney, E85 is available from United petrol stations, and Caltex petrol stations that stock BioFlex E85 fuel.

For accurate info please check the Caltex and United websites.

Generally, we have found United to be of 85% Ethonal, with the remaining 15% lower octane than 98, but we always see awesome results with the United E85 so it is

definatley recomended.

Caltex Bioflex states 75% - 85% Ethonal on the pump, we are not aware of what rating the remaining petrol portion is, but we have also had and always do have, aweosme results with BioFlex.

RapidSystems and Crescent Motorsport recently worked on and tuned an FG XR6T to 600.1wkws on Caltex BioFlex E85. This sort of power used to be unheard of with pump fuels, such as 98,

with many tuners resorting to "special cocktail" fuels, race fuels ect to run 600+... now its as easy as filling up at the local Caltex and its even greatly cheaper than 98 at the pump.

KW's?

More torque?

More boost?

So 600kws is posible from pump E85 with big turbo ect, but what about an XR6T with stock turbo?

Unfortunatly, you'll never really see much more power than the cars turbo is rated too, so dont expect to see over 650hp if the turbo is only rated at 650hp.

BUT, what you will see, when tuned smartly, is a huge gain in low down and midrange responce... the engines timing can be greatly advanced to make alot more power/ torque

through the lower rpms and up, so a car that feels a bit laggy on 98, can be tuned to feel greatly responsive from standing starts, and that's a great thing to have with our heavy cars.

Boost levels can be run higher on E85, but the limiting factor will always be the basic engine strenth, but for example, where 350wkws may have been considered the safe limit, can now be pushed

higher and safer with E85.

VERY COOL?

E85 has greater cooling properties, so tuners can gain cooling effects from the fuel itself, so when used with a good intercooling system, combustion chanber temps are alot lower.

Resulting in better efficiency, more stabillity, cleaner burning and greater reliablity. Making more efficient power on less boost.

WILL I USE MORE?

Basically, yes and no.

E85 burns faster, at a general rate of around 25% faster, so depending on your application, fuel systems may need to be upgraded to cope with the greater fuel flow that's required.

We like to work on a general rule of thumb, adding 40% flow to a fuel system that would be used for the same power goal, on 98oct.

So for example, we usually see 400-420wkws from a single Bosche 044 fuel pump on 98octane, for the same 400-420 on E85 we like to use a pump that has a minimum of 40% more flow than the 044.

We use and recomend Aeromotive A1000 fuel pump in replace of an 044, this pump is rated to 1000hp, compared to the 044 at 650hp... so alot more flow to cover the requirments of E85.

Fuel injectors may need to be upgraded also.

We have found 60lb Seimens injectors to reach their maximum at around 400wkws on 98, and about 350wkws on E85 when using the stock BA - FG rail and regulator. An adjsutable fuel reg can be used to increase the base fuel pressure, but always consult the injectors max specs for operating fuel presure.

80lb Seimens injectors are a great replacement and run happily to 450wkws in the standard rail and reg, on E85. Above that power level we go to I.Ds and Expurts of 1000 - 2000cc, after market fuel rail and adjustable fuel regulator.

So, yes the car will burn more fuel to make power, but it can also be tuned leaner on cruise and light throttle, so ecconomy is usually around the same as 98 when driven off boost or on low boost, such as highway cruising and stop start traffic. Larger throttle driving will use the typical 20-30% more, but work it out dollar for dollar, and E85 still comes out ahead.

And at a lower price per litre at the pump, E85 becomes an affordable high performace fuel.

SHOULD WE ALL RUSH OUT AND GET E85 TUNES?

Well, it depends on where you live, availability of the E85, and the cost to set the car up for E85.

If you use SCT / Herrod Xcal3 for the tuning of your car, your tuner can easilly add an E85 tune into the flash box, and keep your existing 98 tune(s). So if your stuck somewhere and can't get to a servo with E85, simply fill up with 98, and flash your 98 tune back in, and off you drive.

If E85 is readilly available to you, you would be crazy not to seriously look into running it in your car.

Below are some common scenarios for 3 various XR6T cars that may want to convert to E85

Edited 07/05/12 02:29 PM by TonezXR6T

[flyxrt]

[TonezXR6T]

I haven't herd that in years lmao