Wheres The Power Gone; Hits The Press

[aaronmihe]

Grass - what do you mean... If you're talking about the NV portion then yes... If you're talking about V then yes it shoudl clear but it's not unheard of to have the volatile area mildy corrupted post-flash... (it's not a Ford thing, just an ECU reflashing thing in general)

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[Grass]

Grass - what do you mean...  If you're talking about the NV portion then yes... If you're talking about V then yes it shoudl clear but it's not unheard of to have the volatile area mildy corrupted post-flash... (it's not a Ford thing, just an ECU reflashing thing in general)

A.

I've never seen this happen in a system that is "designed" and tested correctly.. Resetting or "clearing" volatile memory must be the easiest things for a developer to "Make" happen.

But it could explain what has been happening to some of these cars..

[teebone]

If this is the case reduce power to fix the overboost problem does that make the MKII have less power than what is advertised???????????????

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At a recent dyno day the MkII's were consistently giving higher numbers (10-20rwkw) in both the autos and manuals than the equivalent MKI's - although there were a couple of exceptional stock Mk1's.

Regarding the recent motor magazine tests and the slower qtr mile times, doesnt the MKII manual have a different g/box and diff ratio? Which is probably also affecting the straight typhoon times.

[Grass]

If this is the case reduce power to fix the overboost problem does that make the MKII have less power than what is advertised???????????????

At a recent dyno day the MkII's were consistently giving higher numbers (10-20rwkw) in both the autos and manuals than the equivalent MKI's - although there were a couple of exceptional stock Mk1's.

Regarding the recent motor magazine tests and the slower qtr mile times, doesnt the MKII manual have a different g/box and diff ratio? Which is probably also affecting the straight typhoon times.

This is interesting....

I wonder if it is just the Flash and it we can get a MkII flash into the MkI...

[TRELO]

If this is the case reduce power to fix the overboost problem does that make the MKII have less power than what is advertised???????????????

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At a recent dyno day the MkII's were consistently giving higher numbers (10-20rwkw) in both the autos and manuals than the equivalent MKI's - although there were a couple of exceptional stock Mk1's.

Regarding the recent motor magazine tests and the slower qtr mile times, doesnt the MKII manual have a different g/box and diff ratio? Which is probably also affecting the straight typhoon times.

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This is interesting....

I wonder if it is just the Flash and it we can get a MkII flash into the MkI...

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I have a MKII , it got flashed a by a dealer anyway . Loss of power too :(

[Turbofalke]

If this is the case reduce power to fix the overboost problem does that make the MKII have less power than what is advertised???????????????

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At a recent dyno day the MkII's were consistently giving higher numbers (10-20rwkw) in both the autos and manuals than the equivalent MKI's - although there were a couple of exceptional stock Mk1's.

Regarding the recent motor magazine tests and the slower qtr mile times, doesnt the MKII manual have a different g/box and diff ratio? Which is probably also affecting the straight typhoon times.

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Good call teebone,

This whole issue is a load of horse schit! My MkII has been flashed twice in service, and it just got better.

I think a few ppls should take their hand off it, stop labling all T's as problem cars and keep you problems to yourself. Without a doubt this media coverage can only damaged the T's resale value.............

sorry I stop being emotional,

Clearly there is an inconsistancy in everyones perception of their T's performance after the reflash fix. Logic would suggest that the reflash is causing a side effect in some vehicles only, perhaps those which were prone to overboosting in the first instance or some other parameter in the settings. Maybe our resident Nizpro / Cappa exsperts can provide some insight or comment to help eveyone understand why there is such a inconsistancy.

[Grass]

If this is the case reduce power to fix the overboost problem does that make the MKII have less power than what is advertised???????????????

At a recent dyno day the MkII's were consistently giving higher numbers (10-20rwkw) in both the autos and manuals than the equivalent MKI's - although there were a couple of exceptional stock Mk1's.

Regarding the recent motor magazine tests and the slower qtr mile times, doesnt the MKII manual have a different g/box and diff ratio? Which is probably also affecting the straight typhoon times.

Good call teebone,

This whole issue is a load of horse schit! My MkII has been flashed twice in service, and it just got better.

I think a few ppls should take their hand off it, stop labling all T's as problem cars and keep you problems to yourself. Without a doubt this media coverage can only damaged the T's resale value.............

sorry I stop being emotional,

Clearly there is an inconsistancy in everyones perception of their T's performance after the reflash fix. Logic would suggest that the reflash is causing a side effect in some vehicles only, perhaps those which were prone to overboosting in the first instance or some other parameter in the settings. Maybe our resident Nizpro / Cappa exsperts can provide some insight or comment to help eveyone understand why there is such a inconsistancy.

I agree.

Mr Ford PR Man is floating around in here somewhere.

Personally I think Ford are just as much to blame about this issue cause they will not release information about what Version of Firmware have been release to production and what the fixes in the firmware are.

You go to ANY other manufacturers site that uses this type of Flash techology and you will see a list of all version of Firmware that have been released and what was fixed within them...

Then we might be able to get an idea as to what is going on in these "unusual" cases.

With the large amount of cash that we (as the owners) have handed over, surely we should be given information about what the new upgrade will do for us and choice to have the car upgraded or not.

But it would be a "silly" comspiracy theory to suggest Ford are purposely reducing Horsepower to reduce Gearbox and diff warranty claims now wouldn't it ?

[OwnaXR6T]

Big deal, if you can afford $50K on a car, spend $1500 & shove more boost into it, wether your T has 200kw's or 240kw's, STOCK IS SLOW

Scotty

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You got that right scotty.

240rwkw feels slow

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agree

[BA_Turbs]

I'm at 44,000kms. Should I be scared? Will it be quicker to push my car back from Dandenong after it has been serviced and flashed?

[Grass]

Besides that, how can you call this issue full of sh*t.

If someone, like "Trelo" stating the he has had his MkII re-flshed and it appears down on power, who is to say if he is right or wrong ?

Surely you have not driven "trelo's" car and be able to say yes or no to whether the Flash has changed his power output or not.

As you have said, perhaps "there is an inconsistancy in everyones perception of their T's performance after the reflash fix. Logic would suggest that the reflash is causing a side effect in some vehicles only, perhaps those which were prone to overboosting in the first instance or some other parameter in the settings"

Maybe it is the exceptional T's that are producing slightly more horsepower that are being "relled" back into the Pack by the new Firmware...