Wheres The Power Gone; Hits The Press

[sixfan]

Ker...ching!

there goes another $5000 of resale value from my T.

[harvyk]

Ker...ching!

there goes another $5000 of resale value from my T.

 

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Ditto

[veczar]

I noticed no major difference after the reflash when I was stock.

[Grass]

If this is the case reduce power to fix the overboost problem does that make the MKII have less power than what is advertised???????????????

At a recent dyno day the MkII's were consistently giving higher numbers (10-20rwkw) in both the autos and manuals than the equivalent MKI's - although there were a couple of exceptional stock Mk1's.

Regarding the recent motor magazine tests and the slower qtr mile times, doesnt the MKII manual have a different g/box and diff ratio? Which is probably also affecting the straight typhoon times.

Are there any Dyno figures you can post for us ?

[ubyte]

As long I still keep launching from lights with my stock T :w00t: leaving the Heavy S y Vehicles in my dust I dont care too much about the flash itself. Not that I condone street racing...

As for the 5K off the re-sale price... I dunno. I reckon those oil companies are doing more damage anyway!

Still, I'd be interested in the Dyno's. I've got to get my 15k service done on me Mark I. does anyone know the ball park cost of dyno checks?

[Guest kayteem]

My car is a stock MKII and got flashed at the 15k service 2 weeks ago. I noticed a power loss or different power delivery bw 3000-4000 rpm and returned to the dealer to ask what the? It feels sluggish or more constant in the power delivery especially in the 3-4k rpm. There isn't that turbo rush that used to make the car a dream to drive. It also sounds like the turbo is not whistling as high pitched as it used at that rev range.

Through lengthy discussions with the service manager they would not return the old software version. The service manager then contacted Ford to get what changes were made in the latest software. Apparently there have been complaints about a power lag bw3-4k rpm. One of the fixes is the overboost detection point, that was causing the PCM to think it was overboosting and then decrease the power (lag) then cut-in again(surge)

I told the service manager that I just want it running how it used to. He said it is still running within specification and Ford will put my car on the dyno to prove it. Mid next week it will be in on a dyno. They are not prepared to provide before dyno runs (obviously they cant for my car)

I expect the power probably is the same but the way it delivers it is different.

Does anyone have a dyno run of stock before flash?

I started searching this forum for info on whether the issue was experienced by others and found this thread. People that have not experienced a power loss are fortunate, I wish I was one of them.

I dont normally have time to read the forum and did not know about this issue at service time and so was not influenced by this thread. If I had known I would not let them flash it.

Does anyone know a way of reflashing the old software back in without buying EDIT?

[Grass]

You reading this Turbofalke ?

[Grass]

Getting the old software / Firmware seems to be the first problem....

[YOOT]

My car is a stock MKII and got flashed at the 15k service 2 weeks ago. I noticed a power loss or different power delivery bw 3000-4000 rpm and returned to the dealer to ask what the? It feels sluggish or more constant in the power delivery especially in the 3-4k rpm. There isn't that turbo rush that used to make the car a dream to drive. It also sounds like the turbo is not whistling as high pitched as it used at that rev range.

Through lengthy discussions with the service manager they would not return the old software version. The service manager then contacted Ford to get what changes were made in the latest software. Apparently there have been complaints about a power lag bw3-4k rpm. One of the fixes is the overboost detection point, that was causing the PCM to think it was overboosting and then decrease the power (lag) then cut-in again(surge)

I told the service manager that I just want it running how it used to. He said it is still running within specification and Ford will put my car on the dyno to prove it. Mid next week it will be in on a dyno. They are not prepared to provide before dyno runs (obviously they cant for my car)

I expect the power probably is the same but the way it delivers it is different.

Does anyone have a dyno run of stock before flash?

I started searching this forum for info on whether the issue was experienced by others and found this thread. People that have not experienced a power loss are fortunate, I wish I was one of them.

I dont normally have time to read the forum and did not know about this issue at service time and so was not influenced by this thread. If I had known I would not let them flash it.

Does anyone know a way of reflashing the old software back in without buying EDIT?

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Mine was dyno'd stock before flash with 195.2rwkw on the same day as 10 other Ts made 180 or so. After the reflash it goes way harder! And is much smoother.

[jetute]

My car is a stock MKII and got flashed at the 15k service 2 weeks ago. I noticed a power loss or different power delivery bw 3000-4000 rpm and returned to the dealer to ask what the? It feels sluggish or more constant in the power delivery especially in the 3-4k rpm. There isn't that turbo rush that used to make the car a dream to drive. It also sounds like the turbo is not whistling as high pitched as it used at that rev range.

Through lengthy discussions with the service manager they would not return the old software version. The service manager then contacted Ford to get what changes were made in the latest software. Apparently there have been complaints about a power lag bw3-4k rpm. One of the fixes is the overboost detection point, that was causing the PCM to think it was overboosting and then decrease the power (lag) then cut-in again(surge)

I told the service manager that I just want it running how it used to. He said it is still running within specification and Ford will put my car on the dyno to prove it. Mid next week it will be in on a dyno. They are not prepared to provide before dyno runs (obviously they cant for my car)

I expect the power probably is the same but the way it delivers it is different.

Does anyone have a dyno run of stock before flash?

I started searching this forum for info on whether the issue was experienced by others and found this thread. People that have not experienced a power loss are fortunate, I wish I was one of them.

I dont normally have time to read the forum and did not know about this issue at service time and so was not influenced by this thread. If I had known I would not let them flash it.

Does anyone know a way of reflashing the old software back in without buying EDIT?

Mine was dyno'd stock before flash with 195.2rwkw on the same day as 10 other Ts made 180 or so. After the reflash it goes way harder! And is much smoother.

so what rwkw did it make after after the reflash??