Space Ace Member 446 Member For: 20y 5m 2d Location: Melbourne, Victoria Posted 27/04/05 11:02 PM Share Posted 27/04/05 11:02 PM exar said: Space Ace said: Well, the story finally gets better.I took my car in to the dealer last week for some minor work and I mentioned that the car was sluggish during acceleration I.e. planting the fark out of it. Well, I finally picked it up today and it seems to have gone back to normal after another re-flash.Are you saying there's another new version of the firmware out there that fixed your problems, or did they find a way to flash it back to the older version? (or did they fix some other fault at the same time?)<{POST_SNAPBACK}>exar - all they told me was that the car was re-flashed again. Its not overboosting like it used to before the previous reflash but the power is back down low all the way up - so I'm guessing that its another new flash. Gee, it would be good if we had a mechanic that works for a Ford dealership on this forum to tell us what the fark is going on... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/17171-wheres-the-power-gone-hits-the-press/page/8/#findComment-247393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronmihe Upstanding Member Member 759 Member For: 21y 9m 17d Location: Canberra - ACT Posted 28/04/05 06:56 AM Share Posted 28/04/05 06:56 AM There are enough Ford people on the forum to give a sort-of answer.... But the problem is that if they were to say something and it was outside of FoMoCo policy to say somethign about the problem then they're going to get the shaft.I don't want any of the people working at a dealership I use to cop sh!t from HQ over somethign like that. They're only given scant information in the bulletins and most of the times it's just enough info for them to match a customer complaint to a flash revision... ie the original over-boost one had somethign like "customer may report "overboost" condition exists" and a few other ways of saying "cut-out" "hesitation" "stalling" etc....In all seriousness Fords probably released a couple of updates since the original over-boost fix in Jan and they may indeed have had an update that was down on power... On the other hand the flash that's down on power may not have had the volatile memory clear properly and well that could cause issues (like it does with signal benders)If it's down on power post re-flash why not try disconnecting your battery for a day.... You may get lucky....A. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/17171-wheres-the-power-gone-hits-the-press/page/8/#findComment-247590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloan Member 379 Member For: 21y 11m 14d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne. Posted 28/04/05 07:20 AM Share Posted 28/04/05 07:20 AM If this is the case reduce power to fix the overboost problem does that make the MKII have less power than what is advertised??????????????? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/17171-wheres-the-power-gone-hits-the-press/page/8/#findComment-247609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetute Donating Members 4,553 Member For: 21y 4m 20d Gender: Male Location: brisbane Posted 28/04/05 07:25 AM Share Posted 28/04/05 07:25 AM bloan said: If this is the case reduce power to fix the overboost problem does that make the MKII have less power than what is advertised???????????????Or do they sell as the fast demon that we all know... and then flash it at the first service?? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/17171-wheres-the-power-gone-hits-the-press/page/8/#findComment-247612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubyte Member 108 Member For: 21y 9m 18d Posted 03/05/05 01:10 PM Share Posted 03/05/05 01:10 PM Silly question... has anyone dyno'd before and after the service where Ford decides to flash regardless? Assuming that you dont have the ecu modded...I'm seriously considering to do mine before and after the 15k service. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/17171-wheres-the-power-gone-hits-the-press/page/8/#findComment-249233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flukey Seriously Flukey Member Donating Members 4,354 Member For: 21y 3m Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 03/05/05 01:13 PM Share Posted 03/05/05 01:13 PM ubyte said: I'm seriously considering to do mine before and after the 15k service.Alot of work. If you are seriously concerned, just insist they dont touch it. Mine was flashed and I havent noticed any difference. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/17171-wheres-the-power-gone-hits-the-press/page/8/#findComment-249234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAP No boost, no bottle, just my foot on the throttle! Lifetime Members 7,935 Member For: 21y 4m 7d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 03/05/05 01:40 PM Share Posted 03/05/05 01:40 PM Mine is going in to Fraud service in the morning to have many warranty items fixed.I will be asking for the update flash as I get whiplash when driving hard as the power pulses. I have a very accurate boost gauge and I see the car going from 0.4bar to 0.6bat (6psi-8psi). The car only has a CAI and BMC filter. I kept telling the dealer about this problem and after 3 attampts at fixing it, I got a Unichip, this fixed the problem, but since removing it the problem has come back.While my car has never had the boost cut, the randomness of the power is annoying. I thought the car was down on power, when in fact it was overboosting making the car heaps faster for short bursts.I have a before Dyno, so I will try to get an after dyno to see what the change is. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/17171-wheres-the-power-gone-hits-the-press/page/8/#findComment-249240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
exar Member 187 Member For: 21y 3m 9d Posted 03/05/05 10:28 PM Share Posted 03/05/05 10:28 PM ubyte said: Silly question... has anyone dyno'd before and after the service where Ford decides to flash regardless? Assuming that you dont have the ecu modded...I'm seriously considering to do mine before and after the 15k service.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>From various discussions here, it seems to me that the latest firmware has no power problem. There may have been a previous version with a problem, but the latest reflashes, in one case at least, fixed the power loss, and for others (like me), the reflash never caused any problem. Seems that some people were unlucky enough to get a reflash while the 'bad' version was current.Just my opinion.... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/17171-wheres-the-power-gone-hits-the-press/page/8/#findComment-249262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAP No boost, no bottle, just my foot on the throttle! Lifetime Members 7,935 Member For: 21y 4m 7d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 04/05/05 06:18 AM Share Posted 04/05/05 06:18 AM I just got back from the dealers and the flash has made a noticable difference to the car.First impressions:Power delivery is smoothBoost does not spike anymore, sticks from 0.3bar - 0.4 (5-6psi)Feels more torquey, its weird, but it seems to pull better from low down revsFuel economy is a bit better (I only did 20km) but time will tell as it is early daysCar started quicker than it did before. I would normally count to 2 when starting, now its only a count to one.If anyone is experiencing the overboost cut, overboost or spikey power delivery, I suggest you get it done. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/17171-wheres-the-power-gone-hits-the-press/page/8/#findComment-249387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grass Donating Members 447 Member For: 21y 4m 4d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 04/05/05 07:32 AM Share Posted 04/05/05 07:32 AM aaronmihe said: There are enough Ford people on the forum to give a sort-of answer.... But the problem is that if they were to say something and it was outside of FoMoCo policy to say somethign about the problem then they're going to get the shaft.I don't want any of the people working at a dealership I use to cop sh!t from HQ over somethign like that. They're only given scant information in the bulletins and most of the times it's just enough info for them to match a customer complaint to a flash revision... ie the original over-boost one had somethign like "customer may report "overboost" condition exists" and a few other ways of saying "cut-out" "hesitation" "stalling" etc....In all seriousness Fords probably released a couple of updates since the original over-boost fix in Jan and they may indeed have had an update that was down on power... On the other hand the flash that's down on power may not have had the volatile memory clear properly and well that could cause issues (like it does with signal benders)If it's down on power post re-flash why not try disconnecting your battery for a day.... You may get lucky....A.Flashes don't work like that... either the whole image is updated, or none at all.. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/17171-wheres-the-power-gone-hits-the-press/page/8/#findComment-249412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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