Which Chip Upgrade

[Guest bryceb]

Thanks guys.

Have spoken to Rob at HPF and read a number of the posts.

For me, the Edit is definitely the go, as I want a simple upgrade that has limited issues with insurance and warranty, and still getting a substantial improvement.

Thanks for the input.

[Pretzel]

  WhiteTee said:

Not sure about EMS for the T quite a few tranny issues with those that have run it.

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I think the tranny issues are NOT due to the EMS. Yes the EMS is producing good power, which is causing them to fail, and they will fail regardless of what upgrade path is chosen anyway (If enough power is put through them !)

I don't blame the EMS for my box failure, it was my decision to wind it up so far !! The EMS just gave me the ability to do so !

Pretzel

[Buf-Phoon]

  Pretzel said:

  WhiteTee said:

Not sure about EMS for the T quite a few tranny issues with those that have run it.

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I think the tranny issues are NOT due to the EMS. Yes the EMS is producing good power, which is causing them to fail, and they will fail regardless of what upgrade path is chosen anyway (If enough power is put through them !)

I don't blame the EMS for my box failure, it was my decision to wind it up so far !! The EMS just gave me the ability to do so !

Pretzel

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Fair enough , not having a go. Just seemed to me that there are not too many EMS fitted cars around and it appeared to ME that proportionally they were having a few more tranny issues

[Pretzel]

  WhiteTee said:

  Pretzel said:

  WhiteTee said:

Not sure about EMS for the T quite a few tranny issues with those that have run it.

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I think the tranny issues are NOT due to the EMS. Yes the EMS is producing good power, which is causing them to fail, and they will fail regardless of what upgrade path is chosen anyway (If enough power is put through them !)

I don't blame the EMS for my box failure, it was my decision to wind it up so far !! The EMS just gave me the ability to do so !

Pretzel

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Fair enough , not having a go. Just seemed to me that there are not too many EMS fitted cars around and it appeared to ME that proportionally they were having a few more tranny issues

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No problem, just trying to clear up the misconception that the EMS causes it!

Yes I think all the EMS fitted cars have had problems with tranny (Bar possibly one) but that only means the EMS'd cars are just going beyond the gearbox limits !

[Trough Lolly]

EMS=

[ch0pper]

  Trough Lolly said:

I better re-phrase what I said..

xede and unichips do have their good bits yes, but now that the edit and EMS are around, they seem to have more "bang for buck" I guess u could say.

sorry for the misunderstanding.

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For the price he could pick up a second hand xede now I reckon if it was bang for buck he was after then the xede wins.. I cannot fault my exed and for $500 with eugenes injectors I am happy with 280 rwkw.. But if hes after more features and stealth then sure edit is the way to go.. As stated the exed if flexible also giving you two maps you can switch between..

Chop

[geea]

  Pretzel said:

  WhiteTee said:

  Pretzel said:

  WhiteTee said:

Not sure about EMS for the T quite a few tranny issues with those that have run it.

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I think the tranny issues are NOT due to the EMS. Yes the EMS is producing good power, which is causing them to fail, and they will fail regardless of what upgrade path is chosen anyway (If enough power is put through them !)

I don't blame the EMS for my box failure, it was my decision to wind it up so far !! The EMS just gave me the ability to do so !

Pretzel

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Fair enough , not having a go. Just seemed to me that there are not too many EMS fitted cars around and it appeared to ME that proportionally they were having a few more tranny issues

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No problem, just trying to clear up the misconception that the EMS causes it!

Yes I think all the EMS fitted cars have had problems with tranny (Bar possibly one) but that only means the EMS'd cars are just going beyond the gearbox limits !

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I think one of the problems the EMS has is that by taking full control of the fuel and timing away from the Ford ecu it effectively removes any torque protection. This would be great if the driveline has been properly strengthened. If the driveline is basically stock the lack of protection will see the weakest part fail pretty quick. This is why EMS cars are killing boxes.

Geea.

[macka'sxr6t]

  geea said:

I think one of the problems the EMS has is that by taking full control of the fuel and timing away from the Ford ecu it effectively removes any torque protection. This would be great if the driveline has been properly strengthened. If the driveline is basically stock the lack of protection will see the weakest part fail pretty quick. This is why EMS cars are killing boxes.

Geea.

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Spot on Mate,

It's taken a while to get a handle on why the cars running the EMS are having trans problems. It's basically doing the same thing as the EDIT by by-passing the torque reduction built into these cars.

The Edit is however able to correct this by lifting trans shift firmness and pressures that help protect the trans especially in the case of the Auto. Once we have the Auto strengthened the EMS will be a very good option if your after big HP. As will be the EDIT

I would suggest that the Edit is the way to go for most people that only want to lift performance without any other mods. Good value for money. and want to keep warranty.

macka

[Street Tuner]

  Pretzel said:

Yes I think all the EMS fitted cars have had problems with tranny (Bar possibly one) but that only means the EMS'd cars are just going beyond the gearbox limits !

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Yet, no one has got close to a respectable mph, or one indicative of more than 250rwkw at the race track.

[macka'sxr6t]

  Street Tuner said:

Yet, no one has got close to a respectable mph, or one indicative of more than 250rwkw at the race track.

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Don't want to start an argument, I believe that my car reaching 110 mph within 3/4 of the lenght of the track suggests that it has plenty left up its sleeve.

Until someone gets the Transmittions built to handle the torque these engines are producing, we will never really know

Does'nt really concern me anymore

As I said if your after great value for money and no warranty issues then there is really only one option available. EDIT

macka