Driving Charge

[ZAP]

Damo,

I diddnt think you could "replace" stolen numberplates.

I had one of mine stolen and now cannot use them

[God666]

  ZapXR6T said:

Damo,

I diddnt think you could "replace" stolen numberplates.

I had one of mine stolen and now cannot use them

I stole your Zap and I use it all the time...

[siccar]

  ZapXR6T said:

Damo,

I diddnt think you could "replace" stolen numberplates.

I had one of mine stolen and now cannot use them

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hey Zap,

I only had 1 number plate stolen as well. Must have been a souvener hunter I guess? I didn't think so either but the Police said to push the issue with the RTA and I could get them remade as there is no rule otherwise. The only problem is that the numberplates will always be listed as stolen on the Police computer. When they pulled me over for the RBT the other day they didn't kick up any fuss so I doubt the police are to worried about it.

Damo

[Lumpen]

I don't know if this is directly related Dallas, but recently in Grafton a boy was a passenger with a (drunk) mate and they were doing donuts (or similar) in a local park and the driver lost control and rolled down a slope. Passenger died.

The driver has actually been sent to Jail as an 'Example'

[BA_Turbs]

  Turbo6man said:

A park? Was it on a public road? Or did he run off the road into a park? If he wasn't on a public road he can't be charged with that offence. But there are still other offences he could face so ... it's a no win situation for him I'm afraid. As for the penalty, in NSW it would be three months cancellation but who knows in QLD???

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Turbo6man, generally, far as I have noticed, you give fairly good and acurate advice. However in this instance I have to disagree. The Road Safety Act is an act adopted then modified by every state to suite their own needs. You can be charged with offences under the Road Safety Act when on a "highway". A highway is defined as a "road or road related area". If this is looked up people may be surprised by what a "road related area: covers, and these days the definition in saome places streches the wording of the act too.

Lumpy, your example is Culpable Driving. That's one step below murder, VERY different. The offence described here is called Careless Driving in Victoria and it is, sort of, one step above a burnout.

I have charged people with Careless Driving before and penalties have ranged from a 6 month Suspension of licence and a small ($400.00) fine to a 12 disqualification of licence and a $1200 fine. There are no provisions under the act for a term of imprisionment though (As far as I know. Not 100% on the last point).

BA_Turbs

[ExAreSix]

I know a guy who's just gone to court here in QLD for the same offence. 'Driving with Undue Care and Attention.'

Clean record, no previous. $250 fine. That's it.

[beauies]

JUST FOR INTEREST about other fines and demerit points:-

Heavy vehicle or coach driver drive contrary to Safe-T-Cam zone rules 4

Conduct associated with street racing 3

Drive on wrong side of dividing lines 3

Overtake or pass stationary vehicle at pedestrian crossing or children's crossing 3

Fail to stop or give way at pedestrian, children's or level crossing 3

Drive using hand-held mobile phone 3

Drive contrary to level crossing rules 3

Fail to give way 3

Disobey traffic light 3

Disobey stop or give way sign or line, or police directing traffic 3

Bus or truck driver disobey ‘Bus lane’ or ‘Truck lane’ sign 3

Disobey ‘Trucks and buses low gear’ sign 3

Drive in bus, truck, or T-Way lane 3

Disobey overhead lane control device 3

Use vehicle contrary to major defect notice 3

Drive contrary to roundabout road rules 3

Long vehicle follow too closely to other long vehicle 3

Negligent driving 3

Not stop and supply required particulars at scene of crash 3

Not give proper signal when drawing out from side of road 3

Increase speed while being overtaken 3

Cross continuous line separating marked lanes 3

Not drive within single marked lane or line of traffic 3

Not have proper control of vehicle 3

Unlawfully drive past a safety zone or tram or failing to give way to pedestrian crossing near stopped tram 3

Driver consume alcohol while driving 3

Ride motor bike or motor trike towing other vehicle 2

Turn improperly 2

Make unlawful U turn 2

Fail to keep left 2

Not comply with conditions of licence 2

Drive vehicle towing excess weight 2

Turn or stop without signalling 2

Improper passing or overtaking 2

Unauthorised carriage of pillion passenger on motor bike or motor trike 2

Start or drive a vehicle causing unnecessary noise/smoke 2

Drive or use vehicle where sound system emits offensive noise 2

Use vehicle contrary to minor defect notice 1

Drive at night/dark without headlight alight 1

Fail to dip headlights 1

Follow too closely 1

Double the points shown below in double demerit holiday periods.

Exceed speed limit by more than 45km/h 6

Exceed speed limit by more than 30 km/h but not more than 45 km/h 4

Exceed speed limit by more than 15 km/h but not more than 30 km/h 3

Exceed speed limit by not more than 15 km/h 2

Speed more than 130km/h but not more than 140km/h in a 110km/h zone 3

Exceed 40 km/h school bus speed limit sign by less than 15 km/h 1

Exceed 40 km/h school bus speed limit sign by more than 15 km/h but not more than 30 km/h 3

Exceed 40 km/h school bus speed limit sign by more than 30 km/h but not more than 45 km/h 4

Exceed 40 km/h school bus speed limit sign by more than 45 km/h 6

Drive vehicle not wearing a seat belt (no unrestrained passengers) 3

Drive vehicle not wearing seat belt and with 1 unrestrained passenger 6

Drive vehicle not wearing a seat belt and with 2 or more unrestrained passengers 9

Drive vehicle wearing seat belt with 1 unrestrained passenger 3

Drive vehicle wearing seat belt with 2 or more unrestrained passengers 6

Drive with unrestrained passengers under the age of 16 years 3

L & P plate driver drive unrestrained (no seat belts fitted) or with passengers unrestrained 3

Drive with person in boot of motor vehicle 3

Ride motorbike without approved motor bike helmet (rider alone) 3

Ride motorbike without approved motor bike helmet and with 1 unhelmeted passenger 6

Ride motorbike without approved motor bike helmet and with 2 or more unhelmeted passengers 9

Ride motorbike with approved motor bike helmet and with 1 unhelmeted passenger 3

Ride motorbike with approved motor bike helmet and with 2 or more unhelmeted passengers 6

Allow child to travel in child restraint in front seat position where there is an airbag fitted 3

[OwnaXR6T]

  ZapXR6T said:

Dallas,

You may be best to call the local highway patrol to find out.

Its best to know from the right sources as I would say it will be serious

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

come on you were 17 once too.

I sugest he get good representation. How is his previous record? Was he drinking? He has his age on his side. The least he will get is 3 months suspension. If its not drink driving as well he should be in that much

He should of got his mates to disappear from the accident without passengers he would of been treated more leniently. I think??

[MRDOHC]

  BA_Turbs said:

Turbo6man, generally, far as I have noticed, you give fairly good and acurate advice.  However in this instance I have to disagree.  The Road Safety Act is an act adopted then modified by every state to suite their own needs.  You can be charged with offences under the Road Safety Act when on a "highway".  A highway is defined as a "road or road related area". If this is looked up people may be surprised by what a "road related area: covers, and these days the definition in saome places streches the wording of the act too.

BA_Turbs

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Cant agree with you more .... having a legal background helps a little too but Ive gotten out of 2 parking fines because of the wording in the act ....

A highways is a street, road, avenue, court, grove .... etc etc etc but doesnt say anything if the street is named ends in something else ....

[BlueXR6Turbo]

  beauies said:

JUST FOR INTEREST about other fines and demerit points:-

I'm guessing that this is different in each state. I got done for one of the things you've listed there, but didn't get any demerrit points, only got a fine.