RATT Member 230 Member For: 22y 4m 5d Location: Sydney Posted 13/02/04 04:59 AM Share Posted 13/02/04 04:59 AM I don't believe the power in terms of an outright number Having said that I have a bigger problem with an XT with 220 kws than I do with a GTP with 330. What sort of problems do you see with an XT with 220kw Ian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSE2 Member 322 Member For: 22y 2m 4d Location: Tasmania Posted 14/02/04 09:28 PM Share Posted 14/02/04 09:28 PM Because it is the base line product and it has to conform to intentions that don't always include handling and performance as a high priority, combined with the fact that tyre size and type are also compromised because of the target budget of the consumer.Essentially it would be like releasing a series 3 Au Xr8 in terms of performance but its ability to stop and turn will be compromised because the audience has 20k less to go shopping with.Given time technology and price allow base cars to improve, but personally a bigger problem in any scare is in the bottom end of cars that have high torque and compromised integrity.When the LS1 first came out, the option was available in the Exec model. SS levels of power in a car that simply couldn't handle it. At some stage FE2 suspension was made mandatory and a recommendation to fit better tyres made. Eventually the V8 option for the Exec was dropped. It is now called the SV8 and combines the essential elements of the SS. It detracts luxury, not the car control package of the SS. It is now a consistent approach to power performance. It is telling people if you want that power these are the features that must be included. Yes it is a political stance not always based on facts, butt he local industry can’t ignore world standards of performance. As an industry there are too many high output cars imported into this country. A supercar scare basically can't repeat as it did 30 years ago but a version of it can, if the local market ignore key engineering facets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom XR6 Member 1,460 Member For: 21y 10m 14d Location: Geelong Victoria Posted 15/02/04 06:37 AM Share Posted 15/02/04 06:37 AM (edited) 17 inch wheels, LSD and sports suspension are part of the XT V8 package. It is not a standard XT setup. Edited 15/02/04 06:38 AM by Venom XR6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSE2 Member 322 Member For: 22y 2m 4d Location: Tasmania Posted 15/02/04 08:46 AM Share Posted 15/02/04 08:46 AM that's right the V8, option in the XT is not standard. Doesn't cost base price either. We are talking model progression where the base package is concerned. No options just the base car and from any local manufacturer.The LS1 example is one which shows how a manufacturer has reacted to dealership concerns over the safety of said package. Ford, had this package from day one with the V8 option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flappist Member 24 Member For: 21y 11m 8d Gender: Male Location: Hervey Bay QLD Posted 20/02/04 02:29 AM Share Posted 20/02/04 02:29 AM Media is easily fixed...Engine is rated at 299kw but might put out a bit moreVehicle is speed limited to 160km/h but this is set by a removeable link (for racing only)The standard car is NEVER officially tested in public by FPV and performance figures are NEVER published.Media have nothing to go on..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo6man Lifetime Members 4,084 Member For: 22y 5m 1d Gender: Male Location: South Coast NSW Posted 20/02/04 07:23 AM Share Posted 20/02/04 07:23 AM Media is easily fixed...Engine is rated at 299kw but might put out a bit moreVehicle is speed limited to 160km/h but this is set by a removeable link (for racing only)The standard car is NEVER officially tested in public by FPV and performance figures are NEVER published.Media have nothing to go on..... So how then does the manufacturer sell it? Who is going to buy an unadvertised product?BTW Ian, great to see you back. I've been enjoying reading your posts as always Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Member 10 Member For: 21y 1m 9d Gender: Male Location: Peak Crossing, Queensland Posted 22/02/04 12:55 PM Share Posted 22/02/04 12:55 PM (edited) Maybe this:Luxury Version - 350kw/640Nm - 1700kg - 6sp Auto $110kRace Version - 370kw/ 670Nm - 1600kg - 6sp Sequential - $130k Edited 22/02/04 12:56 PM by Christopher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torqueischeap Member 50 Member For: 21y 5m 24d Gender: Male Location: Queenstown, NZ Posted 25/02/04 10:00 PM Share Posted 25/02/04 10:00 PM to make a new gtho uve gotta look at the last of them. heres wat I think. phase 3 has 4doors... so should ba. must be a v8... and I dont see why it couldnt be NA... not that hard to get 400kW outa 5.4l with some proper development. and with vvt tech and mpfi theres no need 4 a really lumpy idle. must have twin exhausts. ba supercar style bodykit without the disgusting rear wing they have... gt style wing looks good. either xb style scoops or a engine mounted scoop in place of the bulge. leave the interior fairmont/xr6t spec.. if im spending 100g+ on a car I want a STEREO and leccy windows. lose some weight with lightweight panels/ wheels / and sound deadening(cos u want to hear the beautiful v8) and u got urself a real hsv killer and a worthy successor. Ford Falcon BA GT-HO Phase V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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