PASHEN Member 868 Member For: 21y 3m 1d Location: Need one.. Posted 22/03/05 01:14 AM Share Posted 22/03/05 01:14 AM Do wheel sizes affect the dyno result? I mentioned that they do to Scotty last year and he pissed himself laughing. Would like to hear from people who:1. ARE dyno experts2. HAVE had their cars dyno'd, especially if on 2 different wheel sizesMy car was tuned to 333rwkw on 17 in tyres. Fitting the 19's showed the power figure to be 310 rwkw.I had the power de-tuned back to 310rwkw on 17's. A recent dyno with the same power level on my 19's showed the power to be 285rwkw.Have others found the same thing? If so, for brag value, obviously everyone will be quoting power figures from dyno runs with smaller wheels?Would appreciate a discussion on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geea Site protagonist Lifetime Members 4,320 Member For: 21y 9m 15d Gender: Male Location: At the lights, waiting for you. Posted 22/03/05 01:16 AM Share Posted 22/03/05 01:16 AM Do wheel sizes affect the dyno result? I mentioned that they do to Scotty last year and he pissed himself laughing. Would like to hear from people who:1. ARE dyno experts2. HAVE had their cars dyno'd, especially if on 2 different wheel sizesMy car was tuned to 333rwkw on 17 in tyres. Fitting the 19's showed the power figure to be 310 rwkw.I had the power de-tuned back to 310rwkw on 17's. A recent dyno with the same power level on my 19's showed the power to be 285rwkw.Have others found the same thing? If so, for brag value, obviously everyone will be quoting power figures from dyno runs with smaller wheels?Would appreciate a discussion on this.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>After listening to a discussion on the possible effects of wheel size on dyno results I'll definately be using my 17's at the Easter Nats.Geea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeseman Donating Members 1,805 Member For: 21y 4m Location: Sydney Posted 22/03/05 01:18 AM Share Posted 22/03/05 01:18 AM Im 317 on 19's. Had 19's for a while so can't do any comparisons. On the same point I think that the same applies to drag racing - smaller wheels for better speed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPV TRANNY Im the one and only Donating Members 3,557 Member For: 20y 1m 20d Gender: Male Location: In my house Posted 22/03/05 01:21 AM Share Posted 22/03/05 01:21 AM Sweet!!!! I was 284 rwkw with 19"s. Must run willowbank on 17"s then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASHEN Member 868 Member For: 21y 3m 1d Location: Need one.. Posted 22/03/05 01:22 AM Author Share Posted 22/03/05 01:22 AM Im 317 on 19's. Had 19's for a while so can't do any comparisons. On the same point I think that the same applies to drag racing - smaller wheels for better speed?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Steve, if that's the case, then fitting 17's and doing a dyno run will show in excess of 335 rwkw.... Not saying your figures are wrong...just making an observation mate. Can someone please confirm the relationship bw wheel sizes and dyno results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra potty trained Lifetime Members 1,938 Member For: 21y 10m 2d Gender: Male Posted 22/03/05 01:26 AM Share Posted 22/03/05 01:26 AM if the rolling diameter is the same then there would be no change in gearing and you'd think no influence on rwkw figuresI've heard the more rubber the more grip figures ranging 10%-15% are seriously significant ... be interested in founding out myself ... my trouble is that I only use bigger rims to allow for bigger brakes ... 17s won't go there anymore need a powered up car with stock brakes for next dyno day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASHEN Member 868 Member For: 21y 3m 1d Location: Need one.. Posted 22/03/05 01:30 AM Author Share Posted 22/03/05 01:30 AM My last 3 dyno runs have been done by 3 different but credible tuners. All 3 have said that wheel sizes will DEFINATELY affect the dyno result. One even said that a customer wasn't happy with a recent 285 rwkw power upgrade. They told them the problem was easily and cheaply fixed - simply fit a set of 17's and get it re-dyno'd.I'm like you Cobra...my brakes wont allow for standard 17's to be fitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeseman Donating Members 1,805 Member For: 21y 4m Location: Sydney Posted 22/03/05 01:32 AM Share Posted 22/03/05 01:32 AM Im 317 on 19's. Had 19's for a while so can't do any comparisons. On the same point I think that the same applies to drag racing - smaller wheels for better speed?Steve, if that's the case, then fitting 17's and doing a dyno run will show in excess of 335 rwkw.... Not saying your figures are wrong...just making an observation mate. Can someone please confirm the relationship bw wheel sizes and dyno results?I may do that in future if I ever buy 17's for track work or the occasional drag.Anyone with drag experience report better results from using 17's over 19's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASHEN Member 868 Member For: 21y 3m 1d Location: Need one.. Posted 22/03/05 01:38 AM Author Share Posted 22/03/05 01:38 AM If wheel sizes DO affect the dyno result, would the tyre profile also make a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo6man Lifetime Members 4,084 Member For: 22y 4m 17d Gender: Male Location: South Coast NSW Posted 22/03/05 01:42 AM Share Posted 22/03/05 01:42 AM The dyno measures tractive effort at the rollers. It doesn't matter what sort of car it is, what size wheels or what diff ratio or gear ratio. It doesn't even care who the driver is. The dyno doesn't measure driveline losses, wind resistance, tyre resistance or weight.Any figure taken from the dyno has to be manipulated by the software/operator in order to make figures the customer can relate to and is happy with.People who use dynos to extrapolate absolute power figures are kidding themselves. It is a tuning tool ONLY.I don't know how many times this has to be explained before it will be accepted as THE TRUTH.I suppose however, that without dyno figures to talk/argue about, this forum would be a pretty boring place so ... ALL POWER TO THE DYNO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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