Lowering Your Ute

[Ford Grunt]

No offense turtle33, but I think you are missing Rota_Motor point.

If im understanding right, he is talking about putting the 18s on for play (ie without a load) and the 16s for work.

There is no way he get booked or insurance made void if simply changes the size and size of the wheel (and therefore lower the load limit) if he its carrying anything.

Otherwise, the police would have a field day by pulling over every BA ute owner who optioned the 18s over the 17s whereby because the owner has lowered the original max quoted load limit measured off the 17s (or 16s in Rota_Motor's case).

By I do agree with ya mate on that you should get professional advice on load limits if he does wish to carry a load and wants to know what the revised wheel/tyre package limits are.

[YOOT]

I think you'll find that the fors 17/18 tyre packages are both load rated to certain amount. What that amount is I don't know.

What I do know its there are no 20" rims in the corect profile to avoid changing your overall diametre that are load rated at all. Period. If you have 20s your a gonna, a or your speedo is way out, and your also a gonna for the speed cameras.

[Guest Rota_Motor]

well I tried on the 18's I want to get, and they look good.

and its just my work ute, and by work ute, I mean I drive it to and from work everyday, but it will hardly ever be loaded up. I didnt really want the one tonne rating, but I wanted a traytop and the one tonne load comes with it.

I got a ute so I could put my toolbox on the back, and wheels etc. when I take my RX-7 out to the drags or whatever, and if it ever does more than carry a toolbox, it gets the 16's back on.

[XRPhantom]

Well that's funny, I have Nitto tyres on my ute and they have the following rating (Which is also shown on their website)

245/35 ZR20 95W 1521 lbs @ 50 psi

So that's a 20" rim with a load rating of 1521 lbs @ 50 psi

Now for the same brand tyres but in 17 inch had the following

235/45 ZR17 93W 1433 lbs @ 44 psi

Seems to me that the 20's take a higher rate. The psi shown is the optimum for that tyre. So you may want to do some research like this and not take some local tyre guys advice to seriously.

[XRPhantom]

Here is a chart you can use to make sure a tyre your likely to purchase has the appropriate load rating.

[XRPhantom]

Now that 1521 lbs works out to be 690kg's. Can't see myself putting that kind of weight in my ute.

Out of curiosity Rota Motor what is the load rating of your 16" tyres? I have just checked the Dunlop site and the standard 17" tyre is rated as follows:

235/45R17 93W SP3000A DUN

93W on the chart shows - 1433 lbs which = 650kg's

So my tyres in fact have a 40kg higher load rate then stock.

Let me know how you go with the 16's Rota Motor :-)

[tab]

No offense turtle33, but I think you are missing Rota_Motor point.

If im understanding right, he is talking about putting the 18s on for play (ie without a load) and the 16s for work.

There is no way he get booked or insurance made void if simply changes the size and size of the wheel (and therefore lower the load limit) if he its carrying anything.

Otherwise, the police would have a field day by pulling over every BA ute owner who optioned the 18s over the 17s whereby because the owner has lowered the original max quoted load limit measured off the 17s (or 16s in Rota_Motor's case).

By I do agree with ya mate on that you should get professional advice on load limits if he does wish to carry a load and wants to know what the revised wheel/tyre package limits are.

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I beg to differ mate.

Insurance

n. we will I <3 Bananas you over at every opportunity

Although it’s unlikely that the police or DOT/RTA would bat an eye lid at it unless you really piss them off, the insurance companies will happily void a policy on such a technicality when it comes time for an at-fault claim – even if the accident has nothing to do with the load bearing capabilities of the vehicle.

I can’t speak for Turtle33 but I assume that’s the point he is trying to get across – not that of a wowser but just a gentle warning of what could happen in the worst of circumstances if you don’t play by their rules.

Trent

[Guest Rota_Motor]

I've just checked out my car.

tyre placard says load carrying capacity it

Front : 1168 kg

Rear : 1700 kg

the sum of tyres fitted to each axle must be at least these numbers.

current tyres are rated to 875kg each single, which is 1750kg

but then why do they fit lower rated tyres to XR vehicles, and just lower the payload? I guess now is time to email the relevant rego authorities, and see what they have to say about it.

EDIT: makes me wonder, if I fit a factory option of rim, how is it illegal? when to my thinking, it only becomes an illegal modification, if the vehicle is carrying more than the rated load.

Edited 29/03/05 09:37 AM by Rota_Motor

[turtle33]

No offense turtle33, but I think you are missing Rota_Motor point.

If im understanding right, he is talking about putting the 18s on for play (ie without a load) and the 16s for work.

There is no way he get booked or insurance made void if simply changes the size and size of the wheel (and therefore lower the load limit) if he its carrying anything.

Otherwise, the police would have a field day by pulling over every BA ute owner who optioned the 18s over the 17s whereby because the owner has lowered the original max quoted load limit measured off the 17s (or 16s in Rota_Motor's case).

By I do agree with ya mate on that you should get professional advice on load limits if he does wish to carry a load and wants to know what the revised wheel/tyre package limits are.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I beg to differ mate.

Insurance

n. we will I <3 Bananas you over at every opportunity

Although it’s unlikely that the police or DOT/RTA would bat an eye lid at it unless you really piss them off, the insurance companies will happily void a policy on such a technicality when it comes time for an at-fault claim – even if the accident has nothing to do with the load bearing capabilities of the vehicle.

I can’t speak for Turtle33 but I assume that’s the point he is trying to get across – not that of a wowser but just a gentle warning of what could happen in the worst of circumstances if you don’t play by their rules.

Trent

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spot on, man I couldnt care less about what weight you carry in any ute, but telling Rota that its all cool and its not illegal, is stupid. I loaded my dual cab rodeo the other day with pavers and bricks and took it to the dump, it was 1640kgs, only rated to 1075kgs, nothing happened but its still illegal, and if it went pear shaped I would have no insurance.

[turtle33]

16's are the factory option rim.