CnC SportCompact.biz Member 328 Member For: 21y 10m 12d Location: Canberra Posted 13/04/03 07:39 AM Share Posted 13/04/03 07:39 AM I believe that he is saying the factory computer will sort out the fueling and ignition timing.. pesonally im not entirely convinced they would have mapped every point above stock boost perfectly as the car was never designed to run that much boost.. then again if they were running higher boost during testing then they may have tuned the car with that much boost and left the mapping in the ECU.. either way sounds plausible really. Maybe street tuner can answer this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBT56 Mal Wood Automotive Member 457 Member For: 22y 2m 17d Gender: Male Posted 13/04/03 07:54 AM Share Posted 13/04/03 07:54 AM Ever heard of cryogenic threating? I assume you are talking about nitriding. These gears have already been heat treated and shot peened. Further attempts to treat them may be a backward step. You have to drop the engine to get the gearbox back in, so it becomes a big job. Re the thermal issues, how many T5's have you cooked? I personally have done three in my car, and have seen inside many others. A highly stressed T5 will run at 240F, and even when you select oil to survive this the box still dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street Tuner Member 727 Member For: 22y 1m Posted 13/04/03 07:55 AM Share Posted 13/04/03 07:55 AM I assume if you’re trying to crack the serial programming protocol, you are an electrical engineer? No I am not an electrical engineer. Since you seem to have a fascination for engineering backgrounds, and claim to have one, then understand that embedded system coding/decoding is more the job of an electronic engineer. Putting it simply son, Elecs work with the big stuff However, having studied both B.Mech Eng and Ass.Dip Comp Science at Tertiary level (USA), I can tell you now that when it comes to reverse engineering proprietary protocols that are serially encrypted, there is no training school. Rather there is experience. Experience I have, with decoding automotive manufacturers low level code since 1992 in a commerical environment. Like I said, rather than trying to gain status for your qualification (and it is something to be proud of) by sniping at others, please put your engineering skills to good use and contribute to the conversation in a productive and mature manner. The others you represent here do not look any better for your attempts to bring down this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fijneman Guests Posted 13/04/03 07:57 AM Share Posted 13/04/03 07:57 AM I think its obvious that the gearbox is not going to withstand 1000ft/lb of torque, but as you claim to be from an engineering background I'm sure you would know that most components are rated conservatively in terms of what they can really handle.. and OEM's are naturally very conservative to be 110% sure that few warranty claims are made.Although the gearboxes may be rated at 450nm or whatever, keeping the fluid temperates in check will help greatly when pushing them slightly over their rated specs by 30-35%. Yes it is obvious, but I was making a point that thermal management isn't your savour, there is still physical constraints on the gearbox. Yes, most components that are mission critical ie for safety well be over engineered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fijneman Guests Posted 13/04/03 08:24 AM Share Posted 13/04/03 08:24 AM The others you represent here do not look any better for your attempts to bring down this thread Ah, what are you trying to imply with this? I hope you aren’t implying I'm on someone else’s payroll?If you think my questions are "sniping at others" then I suggest you learn to take a little constructive criticism. Most of the questions I asked you where either never answered or feed rubbish responses. This is why I asked for your qualifications, as you were coming off to me as a glorified marketing spokesperson. I believe I have been very mature about this, in that I have never sworn or made this personal. If I remember correctly the first answer you gave me in the TSI thread wasn't exactly friendly.If I have somehow infringed upon your territory then by all means I'm sorry and I'll leave you to your constituents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMoffat Member 744 Member For: 22y 1m 17d Posted 13/04/03 09:04 AM Share Posted 13/04/03 09:04 AM Now now guys. I'm sure you are really impressive in the tackle department.The rest of us who are not engineering masters wouldn't mind at all learning from a reasoned debate. No-one has to agree. Just direct your energies on the topic rather than sniping at each other.Thermo dynamics? Your talking about the wheather aren't you.Say can either of you tell me why my car gave out and miss-fired under power? Then worked when turned off then on?And no street tuna, I'm not a mod or admin. Just someone who spends more time around here for his own good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJF077 The Noble Leader Administrator 4,786 Member For: 22y 3m 13d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Australia Posted 13/04/03 10:26 AM Share Posted 13/04/03 10:26 AM The rest of us who are not engineering masters wouldn't mind at all learning from a reasoned debate. No-one has to agree. Just direct your energies on the topic rather than sniping at each other. I totally agree with AMoffat. Lets try and keep it this way instead of trying to prove who is the better technically, and concentrate more on imforming people via more educational posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CnC SportCompact.biz Member 328 Member For: 21y 10m 12d Location: Canberra Posted 13/04/03 10:47 AM Share Posted 13/04/03 10:47 AM Ok so you think you can have a debate without proving which solution is more technically advanced? Isnt this completely counter-intuitive considering that this is exactly what the point of the debate is!?!What I believe you mean is without getting personal, a technical discussion about what is better/worse is completely productive and the entire point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumpen Poison Fish. Poison Fish. TASTY FISH!!! Donating Members 5,181 Member For: 21y 10m 9d Gender: Male Location: The Bogan Shire Posted 13/04/03 11:29 AM Share Posted 13/04/03 11:29 AM Dont all you lucky buggers just want your XR6T's to go alot faster?I know I'd want mine to, I wouldnt care who was doing it.Just as long as it was tested and reliable....and of course FAAAAAAST... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninka Donating Members 1,850 Member For: 22y 1m 1d Gender: Male Location: Perth, WA Posted 13/04/03 03:01 PM Share Posted 13/04/03 03:01 PM As someone who has followed the development of "go fast" modifications for the XR6T for some time, I have to say that I enjoy most of the debate posted on this topic.I do however agree with Chris CJF077 that personal attacks and flaming is unbecoming for this site, and ultimately you should all respect the healthy competitive environment, which I am sure will lead to a range of solutions for our XR6T, some good, some maybe less good. It's up to us as owners to sort through the facts and fiction being posted here and on companies web pages, before making a decision on purchase.The more informative you are on the product you promote, without cra**ing on other developments, the more we as a group will be willing to read your findings, and ultimately make a choice on a supplier. Keep up the good discussions - BUT PLEASE KEEP IT CLEAN AND INFORMATIVE :idea: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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