JB Forum Superhero Donating Members 3,109 Member For: 21y 3m 4d Location: Eastern Suburbs of Mexico Posted 07/03/05 02:31 AM Author Share Posted 07/03/05 02:31 AM From my understanding an intercooler will not make power Only affect your ability to generate power through management of intake temp. With sustained low intake temps allowing power levels to be sustained. That is also my understanding Aaron. My cooler is at its limit and probably past that. We can real off 1-2 good runs then the intake temp goes through the roof.I really need something that can handle 300-320rwkw, so I am not sure on the PWR one.However at this stage it seems to be the only solution in terms of price etc.Any other ones I have been interested in all seem to be still in development. in response to you and a pm:HiJust read your post on intercoolers and now im realy confused I thought that what ever hp you have the biggest intercooler the better (including standard hp) Im looking at getting a stage 1 upgrade soon (250rwkw) is ther any advantage in getting a bigger cooler What would you recommend value for money Thanks Carl cooler size upgrades are always a good idea, now that is if not over done! this leads to more consistent runs time after time! the bar and plate coolers like mine are the go as is the aps phiii cooler. I have 2 sizes 1st for upto 350rwkw and the second for upto 450rwkw which I would say the phiii aps is capable of too!I cant post prices here so if you are interested call me!I think most have my number 03 9354 1198Nick can you post them up thanks mate just out of interest and obviously after seeing Bretts intercooler, the ones you have will they slot into existing factory mounts? And will I still be able to run the standard piping, as obviously on pretzels the piping was very differentCheersJB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretzel EMS makes MAGIC MUMBO ! Member 192 Member For: 21y 2m 19d Location: Melbourne Posted 07/03/05 02:40 AM Share Posted 07/03/05 02:40 AM From my understanding an intercooler will not make power Only affect your ability to generate power through management of intake temp. With sustained low intake temps allowing power levels to be sustained. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That is also my understanding Aaron. My cooler is at its limit and probably past that. We can real off 1-2 good runs then the intake temp goes through the roof.I really need something that can handle 300-320rwkw, so I am not sure on the PWR one.However at this stage it seems to be the only solution in terms of price etc.Any other ones I have been interested in all seem to be still in development. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>in response to you and a pm:HiJust read your post on intercoolers and now im realy confused I thought that what ever hp you have the biggest intercooler the better (including standard hp) Im looking at getting a stage 1 upgrade soon (250rwkw) is ther any advantage in getting a bigger cooler What would you recommend value for money Thanks Carl cooler size upgrades are always a good idea, now that is if not over done! this leads to more consistent runs time after time! the bar and plate coolers like mine are the go as is the aps phiii cooler. I have 2 sizes 1st for upto 350rwkw and the second for upto 450rwkw which I would say the phiii aps is capable of too!I cant post prices here so if you are interested call me!I think most have my number 03 9354 1198<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Nick can you post them up thanks mate just out of interest and obviously after seeing Bretts intercooler, the ones you have will they slot into existing factory mounts? And will I still be able to run the standard piping, as obviously on pretzels the piping was very differentCheersJB.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>JB,Because they are larger than standard, they fit in the standard spot, but don't make use of the original brackets. The bottom hose fits up straight away, and with mine because I was not going for standard under bonnet, we made it cross over under the headlight, into the new plumbing. I'm not sure if it could be hooked back across to the standard top hose ?hope that helps ?Pretzel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Forum Superhero Donating Members 3,109 Member For: 21y 3m 4d Location: Eastern Suburbs of Mexico Posted 07/03/05 02:43 AM Author Share Posted 07/03/05 02:43 AM From my understanding an intercooler will not make power Only affect your ability to generate power through management of intake temp. With sustained low intake temps allowing power levels to be sustained. That is also my understanding Aaron. My cooler is at its limit and probably past that. We can real off 1-2 good runs then the intake temp goes through the roof.I really need something that can handle 300-320rwkw, so I am not sure on the PWR one.However at this stage it seems to be the only solution in terms of price etc.Any other ones I have been interested in all seem to be still in development. in response to you and a pm:HiJust read your post on intercoolers and now im realy confused I thought that what ever hp you have the biggest intercooler the better (including standard hp) Im looking at getting a stage 1 upgrade soon (250rwkw) is ther any advantage in getting a bigger cooler What would you recommend value for money Thanks Carl cooler size upgrades are always a good idea, now that is if not over done! this leads to more consistent runs time after time! the bar and plate coolers like mine are the go as is the aps phiii cooler. I have 2 sizes 1st for upto 350rwkw and the second for upto 450rwkw which I would say the phiii aps is capable of too!I cant post prices here so if you are interested call me!I think most have my number 03 9354 1198Nick can you post them up thanks mate just out of interest and obviously after seeing Bretts intercooler, the ones you have will they slot into existing factory mounts? And will I still be able to run the standard piping, as obviously on pretzels the piping was very differentCheersJB.JB,Because they are larger than standard, they fit in the standard spot, but don't make use of the original brackets. The bottom hose fits up straight away, and with mine because I was not going for standard under bonnet, we made it cross over under the headlight, into the new plumbing. I'm not sure if it could be hooked back across to the standard top hose ?hope that helps ?PretzelThanks Brett yeah it does. I rember yours vividly, I just need to make sure I can use the existing hoses. The mount should not be a problem as long as I can return it back to stock down the track.Nick can you post up some prices or pm me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretzel EMS makes MAGIC MUMBO ! Member 192 Member For: 21y 2m 19d Location: Melbourne Posted 07/03/05 02:49 AM Share Posted 07/03/05 02:49 AM Thanks Brett yeah it does. I rember yours vividly, I just need to make sure I can use the existing hoses. The mount should not be a problem as long as I can return it back to stock down the track.Nick can you post up some prices or pm me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You'll find an improvement by not running the stock pipes if you can do it. The pipe that goes under the Drivers Headlight from factory is one Ugly piece of piping !! Looks to be very restrictive.I'd run something like mine(XTC)/Geea's(APS) under bonnet, and go back to stock piping if/when you put back the stock cooler ! Pretzel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Forum Superhero Donating Members 3,109 Member For: 21y 3m 4d Location: Eastern Suburbs of Mexico Posted 07/03/05 02:53 AM Author Share Posted 07/03/05 02:53 AM This is starting to get confusing!! I just want an easy solution that does not end up costing me more money!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawsy Wanabe mechanical engineer Donating Members 960 Member For: 20y 5m 14d Gender: Male Location: At the computer, obviously..... Posted 07/03/05 03:17 AM Share Posted 07/03/05 03:17 AM This is starting to get confusing!! I just want an easy solution that does not end up costing me more money!! I'm afraid that probably wont be possible JB. If it was my money, I would head up to nizpro for there intake piping and then hitup aps for there final stage intercooler. Sure this might cost a little extra, but the extra grunt capabilities would so be worth it, not to mention that the nizpro kit makes the T feel like a supercharged v8 in its responce (ie, instant). I'm sure this would make the car drive allot nicer.Looks like you'll have to give the credit card another swipe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Forum Superhero Donating Members 3,109 Member For: 21y 3m 4d Location: Eastern Suburbs of Mexico Posted 07/03/05 03:29 AM Author Share Posted 07/03/05 03:29 AM This is starting to get confusing!! I just want an easy solution that does not end up costing me more money!! I'm afraid that probably wont be possible JB. If it was my money, I would head up to nizpro for there intake piping and then hitup aps for there final stage intercooler. Sure this might cost a little extra, but the extra grunt capabilities would so be worth it, not to mention that the nizpro kit makes the T feel like a supercharged v8 in its responce (ie, instant). I'm sure this would make the car drive allot nicer.Looks like you'll have to give the credit card another swipe!Yeah I know, I actually do not want any more power as we are holding back because of the T5.So any gains I am after now is more for consistency of power and to take heat strees out of the car. The car has dialed over 316rwkw but has been backed down to 300rwkw as I have no faith in the box.If I do go down the T56 path later then more power will be an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guests Posted 07/03/05 03:50 AM Share Posted 07/03/05 03:50 AM This is starting to get confusing!! I just want an easy solution that does not end up costing me more money!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm afraid that probably wont be possible JB. If it was my money, I would head up to nizpro for there intake piping and then hitup aps for there final stage intercooler. Sure this might cost a little extra, but the extra grunt capabilities would so be worth it, not to mention that the nizpro kit makes the T feel like a supercharged v8 in its responce (ie, instant). I'm sure this would make the car drive allot nicer.Looks like you'll have to give the credit card another swipe!<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yeah I know, I actually do not want any more power as we are holding back because of the T5.So any gains I am after now is more for consistency of power and to take heat strees out of the car. The car has dialed over 316rwkw but has been backed down to 300rwkw as I have no faith in the box.If I do go down the T56 path later then more power will be an option. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>as you can see in pretzels pics and bri bri's car as he is not far from you we don't modify any std part so as to be able to reverse all mods when you desire to go back to stock! the only not cheap reversal would be the cai hole under the battery tray which is not seen anyway unless specifically looking there!you have my number call me later as I'm home sick at the moment!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street Tuner Member 727 Member For: 22y 2m 7d Posted 07/03/05 04:38 AM Share Posted 07/03/05 04:38 AM to me the cooler must flow air but it must also cool effectivly so bar and plate is the go!<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Interesting thoughts there DW...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawsy Wanabe mechanical engineer Donating Members 960 Member For: 20y 5m 14d Gender: Male Location: At the computer, obviously..... Posted 07/03/05 05:01 AM Share Posted 07/03/05 05:01 AM to me the cooler must flow air but it must also cool effectivly so bar and plate is the go!Interesting thoughts there DW......Very sly, Cpt. Obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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