F6 UTE - Track Bound EVO III - Member 3,367 Member For: 20y 2m 8d Gender: Male Location: Strapped in and holding on Posted 28/02/05 01:38 PM Share Posted 28/02/05 01:38 PM ARE 2 DIFFERENT FLASH EDIT PRODUCTS TUNED BY THE SAME TUNER ABLE TO TUNE THE CAR BETTER THAN THE OTHER.ARE THE FORD EDITS BETTER THAN AN INTERUPTOR SET UP.CAN THE DEALERSHIP DETECT THE FORD EDITdave<{POST_SNAPBACK}>So what's your opinion?? you obviously have a professional take on the matter put forward?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Forum Superhero Donating Members 3,109 Member For: 21y 2m 27d Location: Eastern Suburbs of Mexico Posted 28/02/05 09:54 PM Share Posted 28/02/05 09:54 PM ARE 2 DIFFERENT FLASH EDIT PRODUCTS TUNED BY THE SAME TUNER ABLE TO TUNE THE CAR BETTER THAN THE OTHER.ARE THE FORD EDITS BETTER THAN AN INTERUPTOR SET UP.CAN THE DEALERSHIP DETECT THE FORD EDITdaveTHERE IS NO NEED TO YELL JUST BECAUSE YOUR UNCLEAR QUESTION IS NOT AS INNOCENT AS IT SEEMS!!!To say you have been here for 5 minutes I sense that your are here to provoke and show a component of arrogance, hence why I would suggest you have not had many reply to your post.Do a search there has been more than enough debate on this topic, not only from a tuner perspective but also product persepctive.If you are completely genuine and have no alterior motive, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordedit Member 54 Member For: 19y 11m 26d Location: adelaide s.a Posted 28/02/05 11:26 PM Author Share Posted 28/02/05 11:26 PM ARE 2 DIFFERENT FLASH EDIT PRODUCTS TUNED BY THE SAME TUNER ABLE TO TUNE THE CAR BETTER THAN THE OTHER.ARE THE FORD EDITS BETTER THAN AN INTERUPTOR SET UP.CAN THE DEALERSHIP DETECT THE FORD EDITdave<{POST_SNAPBACK}>So what's your opinion?? you obviously have a professional take on the matter put forward??<{POST_SNAPBACK}> my alterior motive is promoting a tool that needs some calrification and genuine debate.our take on it is that any edit , be it out now or/if in the future cannot tune the pcm any differently or better.the product is the tuner not the tool used (at the moment the fordedit)your tune will only be as good as your tuner.any tool that can tune the pcm directly is always going to tune it to its optimum and correctly(depending on tuner)any tool that tricks the tune to the pcm is now oudated ( great while it was all we had)in regards to dealerships tracing the fordedit we need to be honest with them regardless if they can or cant now or in the future.with live data logging any edit tool can tune your car to its optimum(depending on tuner)dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Member 453 Member For: 22y 2m 21d Location: Kurrajong, Sydney Posted 28/02/05 11:36 PM Share Posted 28/02/05 11:36 PM Hey Dave,So (correct me if I'm wrong), you're saying1. It's the tuner, not whether the edit is made by SCT or APS; and2. Edit technologies have made signal benders redundant?Point 1 is pretty much a given around here, while point 2 is still somewhat debated... the fastest T on this forum currently runs a Xede, although that may change shortly.Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordedit Member 54 Member For: 19y 11m 26d Location: adelaide s.a Posted 28/02/05 11:44 PM Author Share Posted 28/02/05 11:44 PM hi grantour experiance so far with the edit is that on the same vehicle after removing the piggyback(whatever brand) we are able to tune more precisely and to that vehicles optimum using pcm editing.dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badxr6 HEINRICH PERFORMANCE AND TUNING Donating Members 439 Member For: 21y 15d Gender: Male Location: adelaide Posted 28/02/05 11:48 PM Share Posted 28/02/05 11:48 PM Hey Dave,So (correct me if I'm wrong), you're saying1. It's the tuner, not whether the edit is made by SCT or APS; and2. Edit technologies have made signal benders redundant?Point 1 is pretty much a given around here, while point 2 is still somewhat debated... the fastest T on this forum currently runs a Xede, although that may change shortly.Grantthe fastest street t is nizpro now with the ford edit which ran on sat nightand yes the edit is a edit it will come down to the tunner just like with the piggy backs that's why some cars may have been quicker than others it the same deal different product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Forum Superhero Donating Members 3,109 Member For: 21y 2m 27d Location: Eastern Suburbs of Mexico Posted 28/02/05 11:54 PM Share Posted 28/02/05 11:54 PM hi grantour experiance so far with the edit is that on the same vehicle after removing the piggyback(whatever brand) we are able to tune more precisely and to that vehicles optimum using pcm editing.daveYes we all pretty much are aware of that. I am still trying to understand the point of this thread, other than advertising without having to pay?I think all would agree with you, nometter what tuning product you are using it comes down to your tuner.In relation to the edit more can be extracted with the same parametres set from the piggyback unit, this is derived from Cam and timing adjustments.From what I have seen alot more power can be derived, not just by upping fuel and boost but develing more into the factory pcm restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minstral Member 115 Member For: 20y 8m 2d Location: Melbourne Posted 28/02/05 11:54 PM Share Posted 28/02/05 11:54 PM ZapXR6T Posted Yesterday, 10:08 PMCAN THE DEALERSHIP DETECT THE FORD EDITApparently Ford DO KNOW the car has been flashed/Edited. Do not kid yourselves thinking that you can put the stock map back in the car and try to claim the car is stock if there are any warranty "issues" that could have been caused by a increase in power.In what thread or who has proven this as far as I am aware they can only speculate on wether a car has been edited or not .As far as I know for have no way of telling if your car has the edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Member 453 Member For: 22y 2m 21d Location: Kurrajong, Sydney Posted 28/02/05 11:58 PM Share Posted 28/02/05 11:58 PM the fastest street t is nizpro now with the ford edit which ran on sat nightand yes the edit is a edit it will come down to the tunner just like with the piggy backs that's why some cars may have been quicker than others it the same deal different productGive up the details you bas*ard...edit: Found it, ignore me Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macktheknife Xtreme Xalted Member Donating Members 3,112 Member For: 21y 9m 17d Gender: Male Location: BrisVegas Posted 01/03/05 01:34 AM Share Posted 01/03/05 01:34 AM the fastest street t is nizpro now with the ford edit which ran on sat nightand yes the edit is a edit it will come down to the tunner just like with the piggy backs that's why some cars may have been quicker than others it the same deal different productGive up the details you bas*ard...edit: Found it, ignore me GrantOK. Your ignored........ :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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