Std Injectors Over 240 Rwkw

[Guest]

sorry geeseman but didn't all the pineapple stuff start over this same thing?

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Not at all Nic. It was a misunderstanding on my part. I made the mistake of not knowing all I needed before modding my car, nor did I understand what I really wanted for the future. Pays to think things through before modding your car.

It also pays to sort things out in person and not on forums, which is what I discoverd.

Back to topic..

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cool geeseman

Back to topic..

[jordak]

my securities are fine ..not my fauly that you are like a puppet and someone has there hand up your asss

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Why is this necessary ... stay on topic ... you too Geeseman ... getting tired of the "mines better then yours" ... My allegence is too my Tuner ... if he didn't do APS tommorrow I would follow ... he puts most of you knobs to shame!

Just my 2c ...

Cheers, Jason.

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"Knobs".......now theres a good word

[TUFGSR]

just a quick question dynowog. You say that you can achieve such great results with EMS and stock injectors I was just wondering does this mean that with larger injectors (say equivelent to what APS use as an upgrade) could you then raise the bar even further and acheive even better results that the rest do with similar injectors.

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just a quick question dynowog. You say that you can achieve such great results with EMS and stock injectors I was just wondering does this mean that with larger injectors (say equivelent to what APS use as an upgrade) could you then raise the bar even further and acheive even better results that the rest do with similar injectors.

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theoretically no!

it is all up to how much fuel the engine actually requires to make the power so if you need 360cc of fuel giving it 600cc is not going to give you more power!

un like others here would leed you to beleive!

[JB]

just a quick question dynowog. You say that you can achieve such great results with EMS and stock injectors I was just wondering does this mean that with larger injectors (say equivelent to what APS use as an upgrade) could you then raise the bar even further and acheive even better results that the rest do with similar injectors.

theoretically no!

it is all up to how much fuel the engine actually requires to make the power so if you need 360cc of fuel giving it 600cc is not going to give you more power!

un like others here would leed you to beleive!

Nick from a simplistic perspective, surely at some point however power in the car would benefit from bigger injectors and fuel pump?

Not getting into all the crap about when this is necessary, however there must be a point to achieve more power by having bigger injectors will benefit the car, sometimes combined with other mods to achieve a bigger picture, and I am not only talking in T's?

In other terms the car will achieve much more power, but surely you will have to change certain components to achieve this. Yes the engine will make certain power and require a % of certain input from fuel and air etc, but there is going to be at some point where the engine's requirements will exceed some of the components that supply, hence they will need to be upgraded which them gives the ability to go the next step in power from that engine?

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[TUFGSR]

just a quick question dynowog. You say that you can achieve such great results with EMS and stock injectors I was just wondering does this mean that with larger injectors (say equivelent to what APS use as an upgrade) could you then raise the bar even further and acheive even better results that the rest do with similar injectors.

theoretically no!

it is all up to how much fuel the engine actually requires to make the power so if you need 360cc of fuel giving it 600cc is not going to give you more power!

un like others here would leed you to beleive!

ok but if you had 600cc injectors could you then achieve a higher power figure than others with the same setup (Not with EMS setup).

[aps]

Having the luxury to manipulate these items independently should produce far better results than the standard piggyback in my opinion and it should be very easy to understand if you look outside the box.

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I'm glad you said should as currently the fastest/quickest XR6T cars in Australia run interceptors style piggy back computers, FACT.

1) Cand V performance 10.98 APS Phase 3 Unichip computer

2) APS XR6t ute 11.35 APS Phase 3 Unichip computer

3) Geea XR6T sedan 11.6 Xede computer

4) XRdreaming ute 11.7 APS phase 3 Unichip computer

Peter

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wont be long peter!

edit this sat adelaide go bruce!

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Don't count your chickens before they hatch DW. :lol: If Bruce go quicker than a 10.98 then good on him, good to see guys trying to push to new limits.

Peter

Peter

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Martin we dyno tested the edit tuned T for the customer, the tune was a CAPA supplied edit as far as I understand, gee the air/fuel ratios were very ugly and on the lean side of safe. Peter

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that's how I know its a fib Pete, we shut the boost down at an achieved AFR of 12.2:1, as any edit customer will tell you. (And as any graph posted here will show you)

That's the exact problem with a generic tune martin, the fuel pump pressure only needs to be down a few PSI and you have a lean engine condition, obviously this applies equally to any and all engine management product.

We dont guess it Pete, as you would know we command it with the SCT software

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Martin I'm not having a shot at you just stating the facts that occurr with mechanical devices, (fuel pump, injectors, fuel reg, etc, etc) no matter what control you have with engine management there are so many other mechanical parts that can impact on the tuning strategy and air fuel ratio.

Thanks

peter

Edited 17/02/05 02:37 AM by aps

[aps]

I think the thing here is when there is a good product thaxt hits the market like edit ,instead of bagging sh*t over it and say it is a good option for it owe T's ...peter has to bag sh*t over it

That's just plain silly, it's not the technology that's the problem here, it's how the technology is being utilised to tune the engine, if the product is misused (generic tunes) then no doubt there will be some cars running around with a dangerous state of engine tune.

Peter